If you are Atheist, in court do you still have to swear a Oath Under god

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If you are Atheist, in court do you still have to swear a Oath Under god

Ok there is an on going case in America which i wont comment on but you can read about it
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/24/scotus.pledge.ap/index.html

Ok in the countries i know which is the UK and the US when you go to court you have to swear a oath under god.

So what if that person is a Atheist does he still have to take the same oath even if he does not believe in god?

I mean this is a amazing case which i have never stopped to think about because the Oath is where you swear to tell the truth under gods name which means people of all religious backgrounds can take it because they all believe in god. But what if you are a Atheist.

you can lie your a$$ silly in order to get off scott free?

~I remember seeing a movie (or tv show)where the person didnt believe in God so he (?) didnt want to swear by the bible, but he swore to tell the truth. I guess it works the same way, just take the bible away. I mean no matter what you believe it aint God that is going to stop you from lying.

ofcourse an oath on god wouldn't ahve a value for an atheist.
But even religious people lie when under ANY oath (sometimes)...
So i guess they'll just have to make them swera on their.....mother's grave? 🙂..just for the rules' sake

Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you mom?
😆

I guess you have to take it....but it doesn't meen anything...so you can lie 😈...ofc afer that if they proove that you lied,they will put you in jail...but nevermind that 😄

personally i think they should keep it, it doesn't hurt anything, on the other and if they did take it out, you'd hear alot of noise from the Christians, unwanted noise.

It's forbidden by law to lie in court anyway, right?

America was founded by religious men. Why shouldn't God be present in the symbols of the country? I really don't see what the big deal is. Nobody says the pledge with any meaning anyway. What the difference does a couple of extra words mean?

I dunno, religious or not someone will lie to save their own ass most likely.

The oath in court is more symbolic than anything. It is against the law to lie while on the stand no matter whether you are an atheist or not. Perjury can carry a pretty heavy penalty here in the States.

The Force> So are you telling me the oath should stay - or else the Christians will make "Unwanted noice"? Is that a threat? How about you get to the EVolution thread soon, and make some noice? Specifically the proof of creation you've promised me for weeks and weeks and weeks....

All> Here in DK, which is a secular state, God has nothing to do with lawmaking and the courts. You're under oath when giving testimony, and lying is an offence.

the honorsystem 😉

Originally posted by The Omega
The Force> So are you telling me the oath should stay - or else the Christians will make "Unwanted noice"? Is that a threat? How about you get to the EVolution thread soon, and make some noice? Specifically the proof of creation you've promised me for weeks and weeks and weeks....

All> Here in DK, which is a secular state, God has nothing to do with lawmaking and the courts. You're under oath when giving testimony, and lying is an offence.

Omega I was stating that, that would be the thing that would happened, therefore i was just predicting. I'll post in it, but i 'll need to know if i can do something first...

In Norway you swear on the Laws Of Norway

Originally posted by The One Part 2
America was founded by religious men. Why shouldn't God be present in the symbols of the country?

America was founded by slave-holders. While we're at it, let's add shackles and chains to the symbols of the country.

good call, by the way not all Americans are christians. Dont see why they should be forced to swear on the bible.

Going on the principle that people swear on something they hold sacred would druids have to place their hand on a tree and swear to tell the truth... 😕

well in belgium you can choose wether or not you want to use the bible it aint ordered, I actualy think they abolished the oath thingy, if they haven't they should.

I can understand that atheists find it offensive and maybe unconstitutional but I dont know enough about that, still the pledge is a few hundred years old I wouldn't change it now

Originally posted by Fire
still the pledge is a few hundred years old I wouldn't change it now

But "under God" wasn't part of the pledge of allegiance, originally. It was added durring the Cold War, when we were fighting "Godless Communism."