If you are Atheist, in court do you still have to swear a Oath Under god

It's really tough. Nobody should be persecuted for their religious beliefs... or lack thereof. The number one thing Christianity teaches you is that you love your neighbor as yourself under every circumstance. I guess that's why I've pulled away for the church-goers. Too much hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
The number one thing Christianity teaches you is that you love your neighbor as yourself under every circumstance.

Originally posted by yerssot
that's the biggest bull that is/was/will ever be said about christianity 🙄

I think it probably is Jesus's most important teaching, but I also think that Christianity as a religion has failed to live up to it.

if you said "The number one thing Christianity teaches you is that you love your CHRISTIAN neighbor as yourself under every circumstance."
I would have agreed

he has a point there

no religous fighting please

true ash, eventho it aint a fight yes, let's cut it and remain on topic (tho the topic is religious)

No offense taken. It's what is said, not what is practiced. Sad there is such hypocrisy among such "enlightened" people.

I personally think that people made up religion to explain things that they didn't know, taught this to their children, and over the generations, forgot that they made the religion up in the first place.

To whoever's Dad is closed-minded (forgot your name lol): my parents are highly religious, too... I think they'd freak out and disown me or sell me to the church if they knew I thought Jesus was a crock.

Most of the Christians I've met are, (not?) surprisingly, hypocrites. This is an example:

X: God damn it!
Y: Hey-- don't say that! That's un-Christian of you!
Y: *gets punched by X*
Y: JESUS F***ING CHRIST!!! *punches back*

What happened to "don't say the Lord's name in vain," eh? *sigh* You'll rarely see an Atheist getting into a fight over religion.

Okay... this post had very little substance... so Hyde's going to shut up now... ^_^

it doesnt mean anything anyway, they can still convict you of purgery if you lie

The main idea is to "tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth". I am not sure about this, but I think the court system have a few "religious texts" (ie the Bible, the Koran etc) to which people swear an oath to.

If any person called to give evidence in any Court of justice, whether in a civil or criminal proceeding, shall object to take an oath, or shall be objected to as incompetent to take an oath, such person shall, if the presiding Judge is satisfied that the taking of an oath would have no binding effect on his conscience, make the following promise and declaration: "I solemnly promise and declare that the evidence given by me to the Court shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth." And any person who, having made such promise and declaration, shall wilfully and corruptly give false evidence, shall be liable to be indicted, tried, and convicted for perjury as if he had taken an oath.- 1869 the English Parliament

Whenever any person called to give evidence in any Court or before any justice or other person authorized to administer an oath whether in a civil or criminal proceeding shall object to take an oath or be reasonably objected to as incompetent to take an oath such person shall make the following promise in lieu of such oath—In the case in which I am now called as a witness I promise to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth And any person who having made such promise shall wilfully and corruptly give any false evidence shall be deemed guilty of perjury. -New South Wales statute of 1876 (40 Vict. No. 8).

I'm an Atheist, but I never thought of that. Good point.

Although, I'm not planning on being dragged up in court for a felony any time soon, so I'm not particularly fussed 😛

could always be used as a witness though

Originally posted by forumcrew
it doesnt mean anything anyway, they can still convict you of purgery if you lie

Originally posted by yerssot
that's the biggest bull that is/was/will ever be said about christianity 🙄

it's true though... but it's pretty hard to do...

Errr... the guy who said you can declare soveriegnty just by saying it... that is very significantly not so. The right to self-determination cannot be legally assumed by an individual.

In this age, the UN is the arbiter of self-determination rights. This only codifies what is generally true0 i.e. a country is a country when the world community recognioses it as such.

But when the right to US sovereignty was recognised, that meant it became valid from the point it was first declared, not from when the Treaty of Paris was signed!

Anyway, about this whole court swearing thing- does it not differ by State?