Tournament Final · Battlezone

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by Scoobless
as far as i'm aware Black Bolt still has to breath, create a vacuum around the area and he wont be doing anything

He's flown into space, fought in space, and was inside a space ship after a man-sized hole had just been blown through it's hull. Exposing him to a vacuum is not a guaranteed win by any means.

Scoobless sselboocS

how did he survive in space? how long was he out of the atmosphere?

Scoobless sselboocS

also if he flew into space he would have been prepared for it........ not like suddenly finding yourself without air while on the ground

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by Scoobless
how did he survive in space? how long was he out of the atmosphere?

Well, eh was visibly surrounded by a forcefield. When he flew out he was just in space long enough to stop a suped-up solar flare that Graviton was dragging towards earth. He fought Adam Warlock in space, no telling how long THAT lasted.

Originally posted by Scoobless
also if he flew into space he would have been prepared for it........ not like suddenly finding yourself without air while on the ground

But any battle against Wonderman or Vision would already require the use of some kind of shield, so at most he would only need to strengthen said shield until it could protect him fully against the vacuum.

Scoobless sselboocS

Originally posted by Khellendros
But any battle against Wonderman or Vision would already require the use of some kind of shield, so at most he would only need to strengthen said shield until it could protect him fully against the vacuum.

but he'd be under extreme pressure to not drop the field....... one slip and he's dead, also the air wont last long inside it ...... all that and he's got a reinforced Wonderman to deal with ....... how much energy can he afford to expend in an attack when he has to keep his shield at full to survive a vacuum and a guy with that much power?. the more energy he expends the more oxygen he'll be using up........

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by Scoobless
but he'd be under extreme pressure to not drop the field....... one slip and he's dead, also the air wont last long inside it ...... all that and he's got a reinforced Wonderman to deal with ....... how much energy can he afford to expend in an attack when he has to keep his shield at full to survive a vacuum and a guy with that much power?. the more energy he expends the more oxygen he'll be using up........

Well, for one thing he can obviously hold his breath for long periods of time. The one time his forcefield was visible in space, it was skintight. Another thing is that Wonderman is going down within seconds. He has nerves that still feel pain, which means BB can knock him out pretty quickly.

Scoobless sselboocS

BB wont get near his nerves with the extra shielding...... plus i don't think he could knock him out quickly, WM has extremely fast reaction and movement speed..... BB wont be hitting any nerve points

ArekExcelsior2 Senior Member

Scoob, you assume that a gravity shield is going to block out electron control. I see no reason why that would be the case.

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by Scoobless
BB wont get near his nerves with the extra shielding...... plus i don't think he could knock him out quickly, WM has extremely fast reaction and movement speed..... BB wont be hitting any nerve points

All Black Bolt needs to do is disrupt the parts of his brain controlling the gravity powers and voila, no more gravity shield. Then it's one big ass electron blast after another till Wonderman is down. I'm not talking about pinching select nerves, I'm talking about delivering huge shocks to his nervous system.

Scoobless sselboocS

Originally posted by ArekExcelsior2
Scoob, you assume that a gravity shield is going to block out electron control. I see no reason why that would be the case.

i'm assuming :

between Black Bolt attempting to survive in a vacuum while also being under assault from a reinforced Wonderman or Vision....... or a tag team switch over combo of the 2..... AND having the Gravity around him increased and also possibly having to deal with an arrow or two that hawkeye could give to either before the fight ........
........That Black Bolt would have more immediate concerns than worrying about a shield he may or may not be useful against

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by Scoobless
i'm assuming :
between Black Bolt attempting to survive in a vacuum while also being under assault from a reinforced Wonderman or Vision....... or a tag team switch over combo of the 2..... AND having the Gravity around him increased and also possibly having to deal with an arrow or two that hawkeye could give to either before the fight ........
........That Black Bolt would have more immediate concerns than worrying about a shield he may or may not be useful against

There's no "attempting" to survive in a vacuum. He does it easily. Wonder Man or Vision are going to be busy trying not to get demolished by Dragon Man, so there will be no tag teaming Black Bolt. Black Bolt flies partially by producing anti-gravitons, so increased gravity isn't going to be a problem. Black Bolt has shown the ability to fly, protect himself with a forcefield and still fight with perfect effectiveness.
One time, when he was hallucinating, seeing enemies instead of the faces of friends, he took out Medusa, Karnak and Gorgon, knocked the Human Torch out and sent Namor flying through the air and through a large hydroelectric dam with one punch. He can draw on enough energy to power the entire city of Attilan for years. He could probably give Graviton himself a run for his money. Wonderman and Vision are not walking away from a conflict with Black Bolt.

Scoobless sselboocS

Originally posted by Khellendros
There's no "attempting" to survive in a vacuum. He does it easily. Wonder Man or Vision are going to be busy trying not to get demolished by Dragon Man, so there will be no tag teaming Black Bolt. Black Bolt flies partially by producing anti-gravitons, so increased gravity isn't going to be a problem.

actually Graviton controls gravitons and anti gravitons..... he could totally mess up BB's flight

Dragon Man is one of the slowest flyers ever (30mph) Wonderman could slam him at mach speeds and shove him miles away, break off, come back then he and Vision double team BB....... DM would take quite a while to get back at top speed

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by Scoobless
actually Graviton controls gravitons and anti gravitons..... he could totally mess up BB's flight
Dragon Man is one of the slowest flyers ever (30mph) Wonderman could slam him at mach speeds and shove him miles away, break off, come back then he and Vision double team BB....... DM would take quite a while to get back at top speed

Graviton won't be messing up anyone's flight when he's getting a alser lobotomy. 😆 And if Wonderman slams into Dragon Man, that leaves BB just enough time to hit Vision with an antimatter bomb.

K Von Doom Second fiddle

Who eliminated me? 😱

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by K Von Doom
Who eliminated me? 😱

Hell if I know, I was under the impression you'd won before this thread.

Scoobless sselboocS

Originally posted by K Von Doom
Who eliminated me? 😱

tell me who was on your team and who you were fighting, i think this was the original set up

Originally posted by Scoobless
For first round match-ups
the first rounds were:
1. Crazyspinz vs. Scoobless - Scoobless
2. Darkcrawler vs. Scarlet Spider - Darkcrawler
3. Khellendros vs. Quick Freeze - Khellendros
4. Krissy Von Doom vs. Norrin Radd - Krissy
5. The Mighty Thor vs. Nataku - i think Nataku got a walkover due to a no-show

Scoobless sselboocS

Originally posted by Khellendros
Graviton won't be messing up anyone's flight when he's getting a alser lobotomy. 😆 And if Wonderman slams into Dragon Man, that leaves BB just enough time to hit Vision with an antimatter bomb.

while WM is getting DM out the way Vision could simply wait for WM to get back while phased into the ground............ or wherever

DigiMark007 Forum Leader

just a question...how long do these usually run before a winner is determined? It's a good battle, but you guys must be getting tired. 🙂

-DM

ScarletSpider Ben Reilly

Well, it's tied up now, so next vote breaks that, and ends the match.

To Krissy: Honestly, I'm unorganized as hell, and should never have thought about doing this, I'll try to find all the links to the previous matches and find out if you're still in it, or where you were beaten or whatnot.

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by DigiMark007
just a question...how long do these usually run before a winner is determined? It's a good battle, but you guys must be getting tired. 🙂
-DM

Yeah, but I think my battle with QuickFreeze went longer. And I know it had more pages. Anyways.

Originally posted by Scoobless
while WM is getting DM out the way Vision could simply wait for WM to get back while phased into the ground............ or wherever

See, you keep switching it up on me. First WM is taking on Black Bolt, then it's Vision, then its a tag team. Either way, BB can take either of them down one on one in moments and could take them both after a decent tussle. If Vision phases into the ground, then that leaves BB to stop Wonderman from ever touching Dragon Man.