Book Six : Harry Potter And The Half Blood Prince [merged]

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hey...i read it somewhere dat in HBP the harry cousin (forgot his name) will tell them what he saw under the hood....

very true. I often thought that Sirus death came way too out of the blue

The thing about Ron and Malfoy got my attention in earlier posts b/c of the NUMEROUS times he is quoted as saying that all of his things are rubbish, and how embarassed of his family he is. It seems that everything he wants, someone else has (those someone's being Harry and Malfoy). If Harry were to ignore his best friend, Malfoy could have a "change of heart" and "apologize" to the Weasley's for everything nasty that he's done and "admit that what his father did was wrong" and then as a bonus, offer Ron something that he wants...maybe Malfoy will get kicked off the Slytherin Quidditch team b/c he sucks and give Ron his Nimbus Two Thousand and One b/c Ron "deserves it" (Not quite as nice as a Firebolt, but still extremely competetive...). Now I know that Ron is very loyal, he proved that by sticking w/ Harry in OotP (Lord knows I would've slapped Harry and not spoken to him if he talked to me like that!). It's possible that a little more neglect/abuse from Harry like that could potentially push Ron away (But not Hermione, I think she'll just go to the library and back and forth btwn. Harry and Ron like last time). Now of course I'm still rooting for Ron to stay on Harry's side, but there's gotta be some drama amongst the ranks!

Speaking of switching sides....you know that vague rumor that says that someone will switch sides...what if it is Peter Pettigrew....He DOES owe Harry....just a thought...but most of us were thinking of someone on the good side who would cross over to the Dark side...what if it is the other way around...Of course if Pettigrew does cross over, Voldemort will have to kill him, perhaps he will die saving Harry, like he should have done 15 years ago...

Originally posted by Unicor777
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this might sound strange but this idea has been bobbling around in my head for along time
i alway wondered if neveil (or harry) managed to kill belatrix(sp*) would neveil's parents regain some if not all of there sanaty
as it was her magic that put them in this state couldn't her death revive them?

hmm not sure it may do but it mite be her magic that they need to revive them .. while shes still alive

Thats an interesting theory Pixie1, but i doubt it.

Thats the one thing Bellatrix is famed for. I dont think JKR is going to take that away and bring Nevilles parents back, as it would just ruin the whole concept! xx

but she will still be famed for if the spell was broken cuz if she doesnt die she could do it again (people will still rember who put the spell upon them

Yeah but what would be the point in bringing the Longbottoms back? It kind of defeats the object, dont you agree? Thats what makes her so bad, Nevilles parents were once normal but she changed that and there is no going back xx

is it possible to counter curse a really bad curse after the effect???I dont think so...

true it mite be a lil l8 to help them but she will still have the 'evil ' streak bout she killed sirius ...

hey ppl...what do u think harry's cousin sees under the hood of a dementor??? I was just wonderin...Maybe it may be a huge way to KILL dementors...or smth like that

god knows ... mayb he was thatscared he saw himself thin god that would be scary

Okay, I finished reading the entire forum (I feel like Hermione...)...and here is the rest of the recap so people don't have to read through 45 pages (I did cut out a lot of stuff that I thought was crap, so keep in mind this is a biased recap)**

**Dumbledore has a brother Aberforth who is the barhand at the Hog's Head in Hogsmeade...will he join in the action and fight along w/ his brother? Some people think that Dumbledore will die in the 7th book (and I tend to agree, sadly). I think after the conclusion will come a little earlier and Dumbledore will FINALLY tell Harry everything on his death bed, and then knowing the truth, Harry will go and finish off Voldemort (Dumbledore will die at the hand of Voldemort/Bellatrix/Lucius)

**It's been said MANY times that Harry's eyes will play a major role in the 6th book. I don't know how many times they said that Harry has Lily's eyes in the PoA movie...and we know that JKR sees over the filming, maybe it was put in there so often for the less-than-die-hard-fans who won't re-read all of the books when the 6th comes out. It's been rumored that the 3rd movie will come out on DVD roughly the same time as the 6th book (I personally think the book will come out a month or two after though to get more fans...and $ [sorry JKR]).

**Something's gotta be up w/ Kreacher...

**Who is the Ravenclaw ghost? I heard it said that it is The Grey Lady who is somehow related to Ravenclaw or something...is The Grey Lady the heir of Ravenclaw? Don't pay any mind to this...I don't think it will have anything to do w/ the book...

**We've all heard the rumor that someone switches sides...it could be Peter Pettigrew, Percy, Draco, Ron, Snape (probably not)...any number of other characters as well...Who do you think it will be?

**A lot of people think the Hand of Glory will be the small thing from CoS that comes back in HBP. Maybe Harry could use it in another fight...Or maybe someone from the other side gets it b/c it is in Nocturn Alley, and no "decent" wizard goes down there...Some people predict that Nocturn Alley itself will be important...

**Fred and George could produce some very valuable spy equipment while making new inventions for Weasley's Wizarding Wheezes...

**Dumbledore using his picture on the Chocolate Frog Cards to communicate...someone said something about the Protean Charm being used for this (I'd have to look that one up).

**This I thought was a great one...Harry continues studies in wandless magic. Perhaps it comes up again that Harry and Voldemort have brother wands and so Harry learns how to defeat Voldemort w/o the wand!

**Some people think that Lucius will break out of Azkaban Prison...possible, but it wouldn't happen until a good ways into the book b/c they have to show Malfoy being pissed at Harry and Co. for putting him there in the first place!

**A lot of people think that Snape is a vampire. I don't agree, but a good argument would be that he is the potions master, and did make the potion for Lupin...

**Another romantic couple Draco/Pansy (hmmm...flower name...). And then here is a far-out scenario I copied and pasted from earlier in the forum..."Doubt that this is likely to happen, but here goes: Harry starts dating PANSY PARKINSON, which makes Draco mad so Draco decides to pretend to like Hermione to spite Harry. Hermione and Draco start 'dating' and Ron gets REALLY jealous and realizes he fancies Hermione. But then Draco finds he really likes Hermione! they are snogging one night when Krum steps out of shadow! He had come to see Hermione! He gets mad and kills Malfoy cuz hes a DEATH EATER secretly. So Ron and Hermione start dating. Harry finished with Pansy and realizes he likes Hermione. He tells Ron and they fall out. Hermione doesn't know what to do!"
Tracy here again. Sorry whoever wrote that, I forgot to write your name down to give you credit....
JKR also said that everyone was falling for the wrong people (YOU'RE OUT CHO CHANG!!!!!!!)

**At the end of Book 5 Fleur is hoping to get a job at Hogwarts to improve her English...DADA teacher?

**Luna will definitely be more involved. A lot of people think she is crazy and a sort of space-cadet...but remember what house she is in...Ravenclaw...she's smart, and I think there are some things Luna can bring to the Scooby gang that not even Hermione could think of. She will definitely be a great asset in the fight against evil...

**This whole prophecy thing has created quite a stir! The thing is, it has to be Harry...why else would the books be about him, unless JKR is going for the whole unsung hero angle. But I predict there will be a lot of red herrings in the 6th book to make Harry think that he is not the One.

**Interesting similarities exist among the two generations.... Harry=James, Ron=Sirius, Hermione=Lupin, Neville=Wormtail...they do share a lot of common traits, but I don't agree that Neville will fall into Wormtails footsteps and betray Harry like Wormtail did James.

**WHAT'S UP W/ THE VEIL?!?!? If you respond to anything I have written on this posting answer me this!!!! Is Sirius dead b/c he fell through a curtain?!?!

Continued...

**Some people speculate that Lily is somehow related to the Weasley family b/c of the fact that she has red hair. Well, ok...but the Weasley's are purebloods and Lily is a Muggle-born. And yes, I am NOW fairly certain that Lily is Muggle-born b/c in OotP when she sticks up for Snape he says, "I don't need help from filthy little Mudbloods like her!" (pg. 648). Others say that James Potter comes from a pureblood family, and since all purebloods are related, that he must be related to the Weasley's. I'm still unconvinced, but for those of you who still want to believe that Harry is somehow related but can't understand why he still had to live w/ the Dursley's....I urge you to take a look at SS/PS Chapter One...
"I've come to bring Harry to his aunt and uncle. They're the only family he has left now."
"[...] You couldn't find two people who are less like us. [...]"
"It's the best place for him," said Dumbledore firmly. "His aunt and uncle will be able to explain everything to him when he's older. I've written them a letter."
"[...] He'll be famous--a legend--I wouldn't be surprised if today was known as Harry Potter day in the future--there will be books written about Harry--every child in our world will know his name!"
"Exactly," said Dumbledore, looking very seriously over the top of his half-moon glasses. "It would be enough to turn any boy's head. Famous before he can walk and talk! Famous for something he won't even remember! Can't you see how much better off he'll be, growing up away from all that until he's ready to take it?"**pg. 13--Dumbledore clearly states that the Dursley's are the only family he has left which could potentially cross the Weasley's off the list (see below for details). You can't find people less like them, meaning magical I can only assume--which would lead you to the conclusion that Petunia is not a squib, she is simply a Muggle woman from Muggle parents. You can also come to that conclusion when you see what Snape says in OotP. Then Dumbledore says his aunt and uncle will be able to explain everything to him when he's older. Could this possibly mean that Dumbledore will die in the 7th book and Harry will have to turn to Aunt Petunia for answers?!? And then here comes Dumbledore's decision...if Harry were related to the Weasley's via his mother, Dumbledore (being his all-knowing self), could have made the decision to make Harry grow up away from the wizarding world w/ the Weasleys (HA! say that 10xs fast! Away from the wizarding world with the Weasleys...) so that he could have a chance (mind you a CHANCE) at being normal (but as we all know, Harry is not normal, by any stretch of the means...). And finally, "until he is ready to take it" says Dumbledore...when will he be ready? After all these year of fighting Voldemort and all the other evils of the Wizarding world, Dumbledore still hasn't trusted him w/ all of this information! When will he be ready (obviously in the 7th book, for literary suspense), and why is it Dumbledore who gets to choose?!?!

**Other people think that SCAR will be the last word of Book 7, and that the last sentence will be Ron/Hermione saying, "Where's your scar?" as in it will have faded w/ the death of Voldemort...sure, why not.

**Some predict a Weasley will die. It certainly won't be Ron, he's gotta stick around for the last book. I don't think she'd kill off a twin, so Fred and George are safe. Ginny? Nah, I've got big plans for her in my mind, I don't think JKR would do anything to her. Percy? It's a possibility. He could potentially, going along w/ another theory, become a Death Eater, see the error of his ways, come back to the Good side, and be killed by Lord Voldemort/Death Eater (that covers the "someone will switch sides" theory).

**And now I must come to Sirius' death scene. We all remember before OotP came out hearing rumors that someone was going to die and that JKR cried after writing that. Well, I ask you, why would JKR cry if she was going to bring him back? She said she had to kill Sirius off. Wich quite frankly I don't understand...WHY WON'T SHE LET HARRY HAVE A REAL FAMILY?

**I think I've covered this several times but another theory is that in the end Ron and Dumbledore will be killed by Voldemort. Enough said...

**Something that I've noticed through reading this ENTIRE forum is that A LOT of people have the prophecy TOTALLY wrong! It does NOT say that "one cannot survive w/o the other" it says "Either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives..." Good try though. Just to clear it all up, here is the entire prophecy as made by Professor Trelawney...
"Dark Lord approaches...Born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies...And the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, But he will have power the Dark Lord knows not...And either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives...The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies..." (OotP pg. 841).

And here's some more...

**They will have to go back down into the CoS. Interesting thought. What else did Salazar Slytherin put down there besides the great Basilisk?

**“No one knows how he survived the attack by You-Know-Who. I mean to say, he was only a baby when it happened. He should have been blasted into smithereens. Only a really powerful Dark wizard could have survived a curse like that.” He dropped his voice until it was barely more than a whisper, and said, “THAT’S probably why You-Know Who wanted to kill him in the first place. Didn’t want another Dark Lord COMPETING with him. I wonder what other powers Potter’s been hiding?”** pg. 199--Half-bloods are stronger!!! Voldemort feared another wizard being stronger than him. Well who else did he fear...Dumbledore!!! Perhaps, the HBP could still be Dumbledore. We don't know why Riddle/Voldemort was always afraid of Dumbledore, could it be that he was a half blood too? And Riddle/Voldemort had already figured out that half bloods were stronger than pure bloods? I know it's been said that if Dumbledore were a half blood, someone (ie. a Malfoy) would have said something. Well no one except Dumbledore said anything about Riddle being a half blood (until Harry said it to the Death Eaters)...I can't really get out my reasoning behind this into comprehensible sentences, I'm sorry, but hopefully somewhere out there, someone knows what I'm trying to say and can explain it better than I...

**Harry-Hermione-Ron love triangle predicted by LOADS of people...and I was SOOOOO SAD to see that what I assumed was my brilliant beyond words Dawson-Joey-Pacey Love Triangle comparison was first penned by Tinkerbell668 on 6-18-04. Well, I guess great minds think alike! You are brilliant beyond words Tink!

**And some very interesting time turner theories, basically saying that if they used it once to save Sirius, why not again. One went so far as to say that Harry would go back to his first encounter w/ Voldemort and kill him there, before Voldemort had a chance to kill his parents...mmm...highly suspect...

**It's been predicted that Hermione will get seriously injured, causing someone's true feelings to come out...Harry, Ron, Viktor, Draco, Neville...Who could it be? I hope RON!

**Another rumor that floated around this forum is that someone learns magic later than expected. There are some obvious choices. One that brings something from CoS however is Filch. He has his Kwickspell notes that Harry finds on his desk. Other choices include Hagrid, Mrs. Figgs, Aunt Petunia (when we thought she may have been a squib), and Dudley. My vote is for Hagrid to learn magic. Someone even said that he may even go back to Hogwarts as a student? Interesting to go from grounds keeper to teacher to student...anywho...moving on...

**Hopefully we will find out more about Snape's past, his life as a Death Eater, and what happened to make Dumbledore trust him...

**Since Sirius is most likely deceased (see previous post) some suspect he will come back in dreams...not a bad idea...

**Some think Harry will gain a new weapon. Will this weapon be the HBP? Will it be what's in the locked room in the Ministry? Who knows, good food for thought. I don't doubt it...

**Congratulations to Abbita to be the first to correctly name the 6th book as Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince on 6-28-04!

**Lily and James will never be seen alive for the rest of the series. They are dead and aren't coming back. They came out of Voldemort's wand, remember...end of story...

**Something interesting I found was Neville's horrible memory. Could this be some kind of charm put on Neville by Voldemort/Death Eater that backfired b/c he too was a baby....this could also be some kind of "mark," just not a physical one...Interesting point, I thought.

**I got a question, if the HBP isn't Tom, then why was this a possible title for CoS?

**Angelsflame265 was first to identify Hagrid as the HBP...good work, afterall, I, and apparently many others, remember reading that Hagrid's mother was a Queen of the Giants...I can't remember where that was though...It fits, Hagrid has got royal, mixed blood...HBP?

**Just to clarify, Neville Longbottom is a PUREBLOOD. He can't be the HBP!

**Some think Lupin could be the HBP. Or someone else in the Order for that matter. But a good point was brought up about the fact that the HBP might be dead. It could be about something that happened before present day...I thought it was an intriguing idea, you may or may not agree...

Enough for now, my hands are starting to cramp up...let me know what you guys think about these...

i was? *goes back and looks in the form*

hello people i just finished reading bk5 again and i cant rember if we found out who sent aunt petunia the howler ... wondering if that has ne connections with her and magical world more than usually

I think this will be my last installment...hopefully, right?!

**Okay, so a lot of people think that the HBP will die. Well if the HBP is Hagrid, I am reminded of something that Harry said at the end of one of the films (I'm thinking it was the second one, but I can't find this quote in the book). Harry says, "It's not Hogwarts without you, Hagrid." Now I know I'm reaching a bit, but if Hagrid is the HBP and he dies, there will probably be a big falling out and others would die too. Could this change Hogwarts as we know it? I don't really know, just a thought...

**Something else that I SWEAR I remember reading, although I can't find it anywhere, is that JKR will NOT be introducing new characters, meaning a) the HBP is someone we know/at least heard of (most likely in CoS--but possibly not, we don't know how the innerworkings of JKR's brain function...) and b) that the last two books will be back story filling in all the holes and hopefully answering all of our great questions...I don't think she'll let us down on that one!

**Another thing to remember is that the fact that Mark Evans was mentioned in OotP means absolutely nothing and it was a mistake on her part to give him that last name...So basically, I think we can cross that Evans off of the HBP Suspect List...

**Something people noticed in the series is that Voldemort hesitated to kill Lily...what, did he suddenly grow a conscience or something and think it was bad to kill women and children for a fleeting moment? Ummm, probably not. And I'm still not convinced that Lily and Tom Riddle are related on by his Muggle father...

**"Draco Dormiens Nunquam Tilillandus"=Never tickle a sleeping dragon

**Why did Tom Riddle's mother, who is in direct descendence of Salazar Slytherin, choose a Muggle, thereby producing the half blood Tom Riddle. And were they even married? It just says that his mother lived just long enough to name him Tom after his father and Marvolo after his grandfather...I guess it doesn't really matter if they were married, Voldemort is still a half blood. Just for the sake that it IS a children's book, and I don't think any affairs among the wizarding world have been brought into the plot line thus far...perhaps it would be too Days of Our Lives....

**The Pensieve might come back. Will Harry find out more information about his parents through Dumbledore's Pensieve?

**I forget if I've said this already, but it has to do w/ the death of Sirius Black...again...Would JKR give the impression that Death is something that you could just overcome? If she brings back these characters that she has killed off, would it give kids (who I know are not the only ones reading these books, but they do read them and she knows this) the wrong impression about death?

**I think Malfoy will be PISSED at Harry for being responsible for his father being held in Azkaban Prison. What on Earth will he do?

**Is there a cure for Lupin? "Yeah, right" I hear you say, "there's no cure for that!" Well let me remind you about Lockhart saying that he cured a werewolf of being a werewolf. Now I know what you're thinking, Lockhart is full of crap...but the things he says he does IS based on truth....I'll give you some time to ponder that one...

**Angelsflame265, I gotta give you mad props again for the King Arthur comparison. If anyone has ever seen/read any version of the King Arthur story you know that Arthur was just a boy, just a plain boy who gained the title of King simply by pulling the sword out of the stone. Perhaps this title of Prince is similar. We know JKR takes A LOT of her names and fates and other things from legends and folklore, why not Britains greatest legend King Arthur!?!

**Could there possibly be another prophecy made about this HBP? Is the HBP on the good side? That's what we're assuming. And it just seems like such a big thing that there could have been a seer who saw this one coming....If it is Hagrid who is the HBP (he's old remember, went to school w/ Tom Riddle 50 years ago) perhaps Trelawney's mother made the prophecy...she was a famous seer!

**House elves...they've got REALLY powerful magic. Will they join in the fight? We saw Dobby kick Lucius Malfoys tushie, and I'm fairly certain he would lay down his life for Harry (not that Dobby's gonna die--but he would definitely fight if Harry asked him to, or if he thought he could help).

**Does anyone remember a little 8-legged character named Aragog? When reading CoS again, he almost came across as regal, and I KNOW a normal spider can't be the size of a baby elephant! Nope, not a regular spider (do you see where I'm going w/ this?). Who said the HBP had to be human?

**Someone had a question a while ago about how Fawkes got into the chamber...well someone in an earlier post hypothesized that Dumbledore was an animagus...and that his animal was a pheonix...I don't know about that and it brings up a WORLD of questions in and of itself. I personally don't believe it, but if you still wanna know why Dumbledore wasn't there and why Fawkes didn't go and get him, why don't you ponder this for a while...

AND THAT'S IT!!! Ciao for now....