Immense dislike of Christians / Christianity!

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Immense dislike of Christians / Christianity!

I myself am not a Christian, but I cannot help but wonder as to why there is such an immense prejudice against Christians only.

If anyone could possibly explain to me, as to why is Christianity is worse than Islam or Judaism in its ideas, then I would be most grateful.

Most of you who preach tolerance and the fact that there should be no discrimination are the very same people who constantly discriminate and trash Christians - so you're doing the very same thing you're condemning the Christians for. Whys that?

If you are blatantly against organized religion than that does indeed include Judaism and Islam, yet everyone is directly referencing to Christianity. Does, somehow the fact that you are surrounded by Christians give you a Christan-bash-free card? It really doesnt.

So I would like to know, why?

All input welcome.

Discrimination Against Christians?

Uuum, no, I asked why YOU, as in people here on this very board, in this forum and the Genera Discussion forum discriminate Christians.

You're thread is irrelevant to my question unless the article is written by you or a member on this board, or unless everyone shares the same view.

I do not know about you, but I like to start threads about articles with which I do not agree, and cross-post them into other relevant threads when asked about my view on a subject.

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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I do not know about you, but I like to start threads about articles with which I do not agree, and cross-post them into other relevant threads when asked about my view on a subject.

Missunderstood your post.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
You're thread is irrelevant to my question unless the article is written by you or a member on this board, or unless everyone shares the same view.

It should be apparent that I share the same view, otherwise I would not have posted a link to the article.

Well, IMO it has as much to do with why America is frowned upon. We (Americans, Christians) have a reputation (sometimes deservedly so) of being arogant and thinking our way is the ONLY way. Od course Judiasm and Islam thinks the same. But I think that sice Christianity is often seen as a western idea it is lumped together with anti- Americanism. But to be fair, many Christians think the exact same thing of Judiasm & Islam. Neither point of view is right nor is what the founders of teh religion had in mind at the onset..

Hmmm. I imagine one of the reasons Christianity seems so much more criticised as opposed to other religions (at least here) is that many people only have alot of experience with Christianity, and in the west its often the one portrayed badly as no matter how good something is, bad things draw the attention. Likewise there often seems to be something of a politically correct no go zone on other religions, such as Islam and Judaism, which cause people to tone down objections to them.

Similarly there is a saying about how "its alot easier to attack something then it is to defend it", be it a place or concept and so forth, and Christianity can appear to have a great deal of public flaws which provide alot of ammunition for those who would wish to decry it.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
It should be apparent that I share the same view, otherwise I would not have posted a link to the article.

Christians in America does not equal Christians around the world.
America does not equal world.
Generalisation does not equal representation of a certain groups of people.

From your article -

Are majority Christians being discriminated against? No.

Are they being treated unfairly? No.

Is anyone trying to take their rights away from them? No.

This might be the case in America, but as we have already established, America doesnt equal all christians in the world.

Ask people in Africa, Asia Minor and Middle East those questions, and if you think the answers would be the same - you are grossly deluded.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura

Similarly there is a saying about how "its alot easier to attack something then it is to defend it", be it a place or concept and so forth, and Christianity can appear to have a great deal of public flaws which provide alot of ammunition for those who would wish to decry it.

Indeed, I agree, but so does Islam. In Islam it is permited that homosexuals are stoned to death, adultary is punishable by death and so is renouncing of the religion, so how come these things, for example are never mentioned?

"Indeed, I agree, but so does Islam. In Islam it is permited that homosexuals are stoned to death, adultary is punishable by death and so is renouncing of the religion, so how come these things, for example are never mentioned?"

True. I am am member of Amnesty International (though not one who is active over seas), a group who deals alot with such things and alot of what goes on in Islamic states is, in my eyes, reprehensible, but there does appear to be a genuine mind set for some western people that sees them ignoring such things, as it seems they don't think its right to be knocking other cultures and such. Is this right? I don't think so, especially as some of them will then go out of their way to proclaim how flawed Christianity is.

Well from where I am, it seems like it is 'acceptable' or even cool to bash Christianity yet seems to be Un PC or rude or biased if one trashes other religions, in the US anyway.

It is like that in Australia as well (well, not so much open bashing of Christianity anyway).

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Christians in America does not equal Christians around the world.
America does not equal world.

Generalisation does not equal representation of a certain groups of people.

This might be the case in America, but as we have already established, America doesnt equal all christians in the world.

Ask people in Africa, Asia Minor and Middle East those questions, and if you think the answers would be the same - you are grossly deluded.

I believe that this phenomena is limited to ideologically diverse societies such as America, in which Christians try to dominate public life.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I believe that this phenomena is limited to ideologically diverse societies such as America, in which Christians try to dominate public life.

And I can assure you that that is not the case. America is not the only ideologically diverse society - Your view is based on what you know, and many other factors / religions /cultures you dont have a clue about.

The fact remains that what you are doing is generalisation - you are basing all Christians around the world on the ones in America - There are in Latin America - 480 million Christians, Africa - 360 million Christians, and Asia - 640 million. (estimated)

You cannot possibly claim that American Christians represent all these people? Because they dont.

I think the majority of Xians are self-righteous and judgemental. That's why I don't like them...

No, wouldnt ever think of speaking for those other than myself. But in this instance we are talking about perception which is subjective and unique to each person. So for one to correlate Christianity to America may be factually incorrect, perception wise it is appropriate for that person.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And I can assure you that that is not the case. America is not the only ideologically diverse society - Your view is based on what you know, and many other factors / religions /cultures you dont have a clue about.

The fact remains that what you are doing is generalisation - you are basing all Christians around the world on the ones in America - There are in Latin America - 480 million Christians, Africa - 360 million Christians, and Asia - 640 million. (estimated)

You cannot possibly claim that American Christians represent all these people? Because they dont.

I did not state that American is the only ideologically diverse society.

What I did state is that I believe that this phenomena of dislike for Christians is limited to those ideologically diverse societies, such as America, in which Christians share society with atheists, agnostics, secular humanists, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, neopagans, and so on, yet try to dominate public life.

I myself am not a Christian, but I cannot help but wonder as to why there is such an immense prejudice against Christians only.
I have stated it many times, but I guess one more time doesnt matter. I dont like religion period. The only to have made a fuss about my views in here though are christians.
Since we are in on christianity, well why I dislike it is because of all the hypocrisy and judgmental attitude I meet in many of the christistians.