Originally posted by black wolverine
zahit im a wolverine and deadpool fan but im smartenought to kno spidey can beat all of them wolvie ans deadppol he is smarter than sabertooth stronger than sabertooth and just plain faster than him its just logic
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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Once again it comes down to the webbing, something that neither Wolverine or Sabretooth are strong enough to break out of. Webbing gives Spider-man at least 8-9/10 but with out it Pete doesn't not have enough of a strength advantage to pull out a win and any differance in speed is slight at best.
I disagree a bit.
Spider-Man's agility and speed is basically a part of his powers,
while for Sabertooth (like with Wolverine), it is due to years of
training. This may give Spider-Man the advantage in speed and
agility.
And while it is true that Spider-Man's strength may not be all
that much greater than Sabertooth (though it is twice as much),
he nevertheless uses his strength alot more often than does
Sabertooth, who generally just slashed at his opponents.
Besides, Spider-Man is one of those guys who when he loses it,
he becomes really dangerous and super-tough to beat.
I will say that I still find it hard to believe that Sabertooth is in
the class 4-6 tons range, since Wolverine seems to kick his a**
quite often for a guy of only peak human strength going against
a guy who can lift 4-6 tons?
Well, MarvelDirectory.Com is not official, but they do
print from the Marvel Universe Handbook.
http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/entry.php?entryID=570
Ofcourse, it may be out-dated a bit. I guess.
here we go again with sabretooths strength level, he first came out at around 300lbs then went to a lil over wolvies stregnth but ive seen the dude pick cars up...wtf....hes matched rogues 40ton lvl ....i dont undertand this guy!
from all the comics i see i'd guestimate hes around 4 tons.
in the ironfist comic he was below peak...but he was a uber puss im those days.
Originally posted by lightaxe
Well considering Daredevil pwned Sabretooth im gonna have to say Spidey would win. It cant be that much harder for him than it was for Daredevil.
Yes...yes it can. Imagine a really big anciant sabertooth tiger with a healing factor, human train of thought and adamantium.
i read someone fan fiction fight of these two who ever wrote di a good job of detailing the fight. Spider-man won in the end but was badly hurt. the setting was a mall and sabretooth was looking for jubilee but found spider-man. spiderman was able to dodge most of the slashes and out power sabretooth I believe spider-man ran out of webbing and fought him HTH. Spider-man man was eventually able to KO Sabretooth for a couple of minute and in my book that declared him the winah.
Well, the key here for me is the strength level of Sabertooth.
If he's normal strength, then Spider-Man can knock him out
relatively easily.
If he's around the same level, then I say Spider-Man can win
after some tough fight (as that fan-fiction agreed).
If he's around Rogue's level, then Spider-Man has very little
chance of success.
Well if we want to talk about inconsistant writing than that peter parker comic is definitely a great example. Not only did spiderman win via sabretooth pulling the webbing of his face, and some of his face with it, but two months later, sabretooth not only had not recovered (still had stitches to boot), but then got his ass served to him by the black cat. WTF? I mean really, the guy layed out rogue in three blows, KOed her, and then in wolverine 126 his face healed in three panals after a similary devestating blow (as the spidey webs) from wolvies claws.
I don't think sabretooth is peak human, as it's been pointed out he's tossed cars into the air, he kicked rogues ass with physical force, he's uppercutted wolverine 3 stories into the air, and he's crumpled a curling bar into an iron shotput, and was killing killpower who's at herc level stength and has superhuman agility himself.
Now he's sporting adamantium.
He's definitely dangerous enough to put the hurt on spiderman in a bad way, he's blindingly fast (faster than wolverine, who's surprised spidey with his speed) and can take anything spiderman dishes out to him.
I cuncur, it all comes down to the webbing, sabretooth can shred it, pull it off, etc. but if he's bound in an uncomprimising position, it's all over. In a straight up brawl, I think, he's kicked spiderman's ass, but if spiderman has to resort to webbing him up completely, it's all over.
BTW.
in most of their showing's wolverine's been beaten by sabretooth, for a long long time (back in the day) sabretooth beat wolverine in every one of their encounters, Wolverine's gotten better since then and has been able to dice sabretooth up a few times since, but when it boils down to it, most of their encounters end up like it did in "the native" storyline with sabes standing victorious.
After making a fur coat out of the wendigo, I wouldn't be surprised to see sabretooth beating anyone below hulk-like levels anymore.
the only up grade sabretooth has gotten is that from now on as far as MU is concerned he officially has adamantium bones and claws, cuz before it was just wolverine but he is still in the 800 range. trust me on that one. i think would win if its a long long fight. cuz tho peter is gonna bang the shit outta him little by little he's gonna get his scratches in too and peter cant heal that quick so either he bleeds to death or e runs away b4 he bleeds to death
Sabretooth's physical abilities have been augmented at least twice: first,
by his son Graydon in the Sabretooth Limited Series, and later by the new Weapon X Program.
Sabretooth's more impressive displays of strength is twisting an iron barbell into a knot and tossing Wolverine, who weighs 300 pounds due to his Adamantium enforced skeleton, 60 feet into the air and through the roof of Xavier's mansion with only one hand. These feats mathematically require an axial load of at least 6,000 pounds. (3tons)
^ That was before both his enhancements, so he is close to 10 tons if not there.
This fight won't go to strength, spiderman don't play that game. Being that spiderman is so fast and has his spidersence I can't honestly seeing sabretooth hit him, although im going for sabretooth this is what i think.
On the other hand sabretooth took a bad beating from sasquatch (who is in the 70 ton i think, hes up there) Spiderman could screw Creed up bad with his webbing, but if Creed does cut him and its deep Creed can take the win.
I take that back i believe sabretooth can hit him. Lizard does it hes no more special, i think creed would rip lizard in half, so yeah i think creed could pull it off with a little luck.
Originally posted by dami wilson
YOU GUYS ARE SO NOT SURE OF YOUR STATISTICS. Is there an oficial website one can check on this? Or can we write a letter to marvel? Im sure even they dont know what's what!I hope they print out a strength level comic someday just to explain the facts. But they prob wont!
I think people are to worried about statistic, instead of actually debating he character and known abilities and actions from published comics. See, thats the way we used to debate hypothetical comic vs bouts. now, people have there own little handy dandy marvel and dc encyclopedia pocket books, and are also linked up into the marvel archives via cell phone. you show me stats, i show you contradictions,discrepancies and BULLSHIT.