Spider-man vs. Sabertooth

Originally posted by talon00x
This fight won't go to strength, spiderman don't play that game.

I disagree. Spider-Man often uses his strength, and engages
in phyical attacks, when he's fighting super-villians. It's only
when he's fighting common criminals or normal human beings
that he doesn't.

Besides, if Sabertooth pucnhed Rogue away, then shouldn't
it also be brought up that Spider-Man did the same to She-Hulk,
who is stronger than Rogue?

Anyway, I say that unless Sabertooth is indeed so much stronger
than Spider-Man, then Spider-Man wins after a tugh and bloody
fight.

The one thing that the past thirty years have shown, is that one
should never count Spider-Man out.

Spidey sooo wins

Originally posted by King Burger
I disagree. Spider-Man often uses his strength, and engages
in phyical attacks, when he's fighting super-villians. It's only
when he's fighting common criminals or normal human beings
that he doesn't.

I see your point ,but still i wasnt talking strength like punching strength, more like hulk or juggernaut strength, hes not going to push him back so many yards or pick him up and throw him through a building (i didnt mean he would punch him).

Yet if spiderman punches sabretooth as hard as he can in the face spidermans hand will be broken. Just like before when sabretooth didnt have hes adamantium and punched wolverine in the face.

I still think sabretooth could pull it off, im not counting spiderman out, but i think he could do it.

I don't see Sabretooth's strength as much of a factor here, his claws will rend Pete's flesh and Spider-man and thats what matters. Victor could stand still and let Parker wail on him with full strength punches to the face all day and it wouldn't be close to one punch from a class 100 brick.

Webbing gets the win

what i don't understand about guys with adamantium skulls in comics:

Why don't their brains get scrambled in the least when an uber powerful guy punches them in the face?

Wolverine's brain should be tasty wheat after being punched by Hulk.

There is at least one comic where the captions to side says Wolverine's organs turned to liquid when the Hulk hits him and his healing factor repairs them

I really think Vic can pull this off. Victor is an unbelievable foe, extremely dangerous. I mean he is on a Carnage kind of level, as far as aggression. The upper hand here is Vic is trained merc, covert black ops agent and just a born psychotic. Those are crazy attributes coupled with physical enhancements that are insane!!!!
SM is in a fight for his life and he has so use every trick in the book, when Vic goes berserker on him.

Originally posted by LordFear
I really think Vic can pull this off. Victor is an unbelievable foe, extremely dangerous. I mean he is on a Carnage kind of level, as far as aggression. The upper hand here is Vic is trained merc, covert black ops agent and just a born psychotic. Those are crazy attributes coupled with physical enhancements that are insane!!!!
SM is in a fight for his life and he has so use every trick in the book, when Vic goes berserker on him.

agreed sabretooth is a killer thats what he does best,and hes been doing it way before spidermans time. His first kill happened when he was nine years old (it was his pediatrician and he killed 3 police officers when he was thirteen years old, i even know the names of the victims).

What im trying to point out is that Victor Creed has more experience in the battle field, he is trained very well in hand to hand combat, and isn't bound with the responsibility of saving lives. If this fight takes place in the city lives will be taken.

He just needs to hit one vital organ or a major artery and the fight is over.

giljotiini

fURTHERMORE this is the reason why guys like Batman fears opponents like Joker. WHen you are fighting with a moral code but the other guy isn't, it's three times as difficult to beat him because he has no value for human life therefore, not only are you trying to save your ass but every bystander nearby.

Originally posted by talon00x
What im trying to point out is that Victor Creed has more experience in the battle field.

He just needs to hit one vital organ or a major artery and the fight is over.

Spider-Man can take him, but it won't be easy.

Spider-Man wins.

I don't doubt SM would put up a fight but in the end, he would get himself gutted!!

I don't see how, he still remains faster, more agile, stronger and at least as experienced. And is very hard to hit. And the web can do wonders...

People stop saying that SM is just as experienced as Creed.
That is such shit!!!!!!!!!!!
Look at their timeline and chronology. SM is much younger, yes he has fought a lot for a kid his age but Creed has been around much longer and has been fighting much longer.
Cut it out. You people just don't wanna see things rationally when it comes to SM

Originally posted by LordFear
People stop saying that SM is just as experienced as Creed.
That is such shit!!!!!!!!!!!
Look at their timeline and chronology. SM is much younger, yes he has fought a lot for a kid his age but Creed has been around much longer and has been fighting much longer.
Cut it out. You people just don't wanna see things rationally when it comes to SM

You know as well as I do that Spider-Man has fought almost EVERY hero/villain of the Marvel Universe (and some of DC), and has been doing that since the day he was created, in the early sixties, years and years before Creed was even mentioned.

Second, Spider-Man has - during those countless fights - done much more impressive stuff when fighting powerhouses than Creed ever will do.

The ONLY thing Sabretooth has, is his age. That's it. Since when is being older a guarantee for being a more experienced fighter ???

Add all those things together, and we can see that Spider-Mans is as experienced as Sabretooth, if not more.

He is more experienced because he has been trained by various organizations such as the C.I.A., HYDRA, and Weapon X. Since roughly around WWII.

Hand to hand fight, sabretooth walks away smiling, playing tactics thats a toss up on the writers part (i believe spiderman would win a far away fight), also depends if this is in a Spiderman title or a Sabretooth title (it does make a big difference)

Spiderman isnt that much more ahead in strength than you may think, read my previous posts.

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
Yes...yes it can. Imagine a really big anciant sabertooth tiger with a healing factor, human train of thought and adamantium.

But im saying if Daredevil can take out Sabretooth why couldnt spiderman?

Spider-man has more experience fighting super-powered villains...

Spiderman would win because he is smarter and probably more stronger but definetely faster. Sabertooth fights more with instinct. But Spiderman also has intict in the form of Spidey sense. Its a no brainer: Spiderman would win hands down maybe effortlessly even.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Spider-man has more experience fighting super-powered villains...

Maybe so, but Victor is more skilled hand to hand, and has demonstrated against very powerful opponents that he cannot be taken likely. The moment you drop your guard he will kill you.

But im saying if Daredevil can take out Sabretooth why couldnt spiderman

That was before his enhancements, and before he became a great villain. The way he fights with wolverine he should not be so easily dismissed in any fight.

Spiderman would win because he is smarter and probably more stronger but definetely faster. Sabertooth fights more with instinct. But Spiderman also has intict in the form of Spidey sense. Its a no brainer: Spiderman would win hands down maybe effortlessly even.

Faster yes, stronger not for certain, smarter in field tactics sabretooth is smarter. He knows how to fight hes not a bum that lucks out with an alien symbiote. Spiderman doesnt fight with instict he thinks everything out hes got what i like to call book smarts, which is good for thinking up traps. Sabretooth being an expert tracker and hunter looks for such traps. A no brainer? Sorry friend this would be a good fight.

Remember this strength, speed, endurance, and duribility doesn't always mean you going to win, it just helps. Captain America, batman, deadpool, wolverine are all examples.