Wolverine vs. Wonder Woman

Originally posted by clarson49x
wolverine is much faster then she is. shes just much more stronger but if they fought hand to hand wolverine would knock her ass out.

faster? 😑 prove it.

h2h? you mean him without claws her without . . . whatever you think she has. you DO know she survived a punch that was landed near the sun, sent her travelling to crash land ON EARTH at faster than the speed of light, right . . .? 😕

ww is so far out of his league, the light from his league would take 1000 000 years to reach diana . . .

a post I'm very proud of and one I feel needs to be posted again...

Originally posted by jinzin
Okay lets get some facts straight right off the bat......In Wolverine's first encounter with the hulk, wolverine got hit not by one but two sucker shots, the first being that he was slammed to the ground with enough force to shatter the chains that bound him.
Wolverine has beaten the Hulk in Hulk 8, (yes it was with the help of natural gas in the face, but it's still a victory in much the same way spiderman "beat" juggernaught in their first encounter,,,,esp. since wolverine was sportin bone claws and survived a few full on shots fom the hulk that sent him airborne.). then........wolverine did almost kill the Hulk back in wolverine 145. wolverine also kind of won in the marvel knight wolverine ulk 4 part mini, he didn't win in a fight, but he took more punishment than the hulk did. THEN,,, wolverine more than held his own against a hugely pissed off hulk in inc hulk 345 (I think). Now I do agree, however, that Hulk can smash wolverine, absolutely..... into a big grody red spot, but the fact still remains (as is true for most Wolvie vs. fights) that one good claw swipe to the vitals and the fight takes a different direction. Wolverine's fought Hulk numerous times and they've beaten, and stalemated eachother pretty evenly. The entire avengers have problems facing the Hulk, I think it's damned impressive that wolverine can hold him by his own.

To say that wolverine can't take punches from WW is somewhat ignorant of many of his past showings I mean I understand that he's been written very inconsistantly standing up to shots from namor, tossing vision into a van, almost killing hulk, putting thing down in one blow, and knocking abomination uncounsious in one book, and then getting beaten with two stabs, KOed by an old guy in slippers, and put down by a flick to the face from thing in the next. However, if this fight's to remain interesting in the least I'm assuming we're talking about wolverine on one of his "good days". I agree that WW would probably hand wolverine his little hairy ass to him, but the fact still remains, she don't have a hulk healing factor, or superman durability, one decent shot from logan to...anything and this fight ain't so one sided anymore.
Is wolverine gonna hit diana? who knows in comic book fights....it's circumstantial (I mean batman shouldn't even be able to lay a hand on supes,,,,but he's knocked him out with a punch, and even beat him up as an old man. Kripto or not, supes should be moving way to fast for bats to even lay a finger, but it's happened.) To say that "WW getting tagged by wolverine is out of the question" is slightly ignorant of comic books in general. For a little guy that's caught a character capable of moving at light speed, and richocheted (can't remember his name right now,,,,he bounces around at ridiculously fast speeds) I would say wolverine hitting the amazon is plausible.
Will wolverine lose? it's the most likely result.
can wolverine slice WW open like a can of tuna? iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiindeeeeeed.

p.s. you guys may hate fan boys....I'm not big "fan" of em myself. But whatsmore, I hate it when people make retarded assumptions about things despite characters past showings (at least when it's not a joke). WW's punches are not going to eradicate wolvie's flesh from his bones and wolverine isn't cutting through anything if or when he gets lassoed like a calf...... and that's that.

can he cut her? yeah, sure she could. would he (playing by forum rules) ever have a chance? no way. she is MORE than capable of using the old speedblitz attack. maybe she just drives him straight down into the earth. punches him straight into orbit.

the hulk comparisons aren't good here because, as well as being at savage hulk level strength:

a) she is arguably as good a fighter as he is (hulk's a brute)
b) she moves at supersonic speed
c) she has the ability to BLOCK his claws with her bracelets. and if she can block bullets from MULTIPLE machine guns being shot at her she should certainly be able to block wolvie's attacks.

in a comic, things would be different. here? she could have him lassoed before he knew what hit him.

unlike the namor fight (who has no defenses against the claws and no means to put him down other than with his fists) i can't see wolvie having any chance. sorry, jin . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
can he cut her? yeah, sure she could. would he (playing by forum rules) ever have a chance? no way. she is MORE than capable of using the old speedblitz attack. maybe she just drives him straight down into the earth. punches him straight into orbit.

the hulk comparisons aren't good here because, as well as being at savage hulk level strength:

a) she is arguably as good a fighter as he is (hulk's a brute)
b) she moves at supersonic speed
c) she has the ability to BLOCK his claws with her bracelets. and if she can block bullets from MULTIPLE machine guns being shot at her she should certainly be able to block wolvie's attacks.

in a comic, things would be different. here? she could have him lassoed before he knew what hit him.

unlike the namor fight (who has no defenses against the claws and no means to put him down other than with his fists) i can't see wolvie having any chance. sorry, jin . . .

it's just that against batman in hand to hand.. she's consistently had problems with the guy and just as consistently been hit by him...

she's way fast.. true... but is this going to be circumstantial enough to where logan doesn't land a hit? to me that's still up for debate...

my argument in no way should lead one to think logan will win.. but I do think if he hit her (even once) the fight would go in a VERY different direction... I'm not entirely convinced he would hit her either.. but I'm not entirely convinced she's going to be too fast to be touched by him 10/10 at the same time...

plus like I said.. that damn lasso.... gonna be hard to work around that...

I just think that these people who think he can't take hits from her are ignorant of the capibilities his character's proven to have.

well i think..........................

ummmm... you think what? 🤨

Originally posted by jinzin
it's just that against batman in hand to hand.. she's consistently had problems with the guy and just as consistently been hit by him...

she's way fast.. true... but is this going to be circumstantial enough to where logan doesn't land a hit? to me that's still up for debate...

my argument in no way should lead one to think logan will win.. but I do think if he hit her (even once) the fight would go in a VERY different direction... I'm not entirely convinced he would hit her either.. but I'm not entirely convinced she's going to be too fast to be touched by him 10/10 at the same time...

plus like I said.. that damn lasso.... gonna be hard to work around that...

I just think that these people who think he can't take hits from her are ignorant of the capibilities his character's proven to have.

oh, i think he could take some shots, but i don't think she really needs to pummel him to win. too many other options. the bats fights are irritating to this type of fight -- so is the slade incident. but i said if this were a comic it would be different. on the forum, she blitzes or flies and lassoes him. if it came to h2h, wolvie hasn't been able to get past cap's shield to score a solid hit. she's WAY faster than cap. he had trouble landing blows against spidey. with her bracelets she could deflect his attacks, dodge, fly up, . . . in the environment of the forum, i can't see him winning.

Originally posted by jinzin
ummmm... you think what? 🤨

lol..............ww wins

Originally posted by leonidas
oh, i think he could take some shots, but i don't think she really needs to pummel him to win. too many other options. the bats fights are irritating to this type of fight -- so is the slade incident. but i said if this were a comic it would be different. on the forum, she blitzes or flies and lassoes him. if it came to h2h, wolvie hasn't been able to get past cap's shield to score a solid hit. she's WAY faster than cap. he had trouble landing blows against spidey. with her bracelets she could deflect his attacks, dodge, fly up, . . . in the environment of the forum, i can't see him winning.

leonidas you know how I feel about using feats as a standard of evidence here.. the character's are more than just a heap of statistics...

but I agree wholly.. she definetely doesn't need to pummel him to win.. the argument I made was simply one that was against those who think she can do so with one hit...

cap is hard person to use as your standard because even scrolls that move so fast they appear as if teleporters have trouble hitting cap... he's just that damned good...

spiderman has his spider sense.. and wolverine's never really had trouble hitting him when he was trying to land a hit save secret wars... so... that's not really an accurate standard either.. 😕

as I said before.. I think it would be very difficult for wolvie to even land a hit.. I just don't think that guarantees her a 10/10 win here...

Originally posted by jinzin
as I said before.. I think it would be very difficult for wolvie to even land a hit.. I just don't think that guarantees her a 10/10 win here...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
In what strange universe would Wolverine win even one out of ten though?

honestly.. probably a lucky shot in which wonder woman tries to go hand to hand...

i very seldom give 10/10 though....

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
In what strange universe would Wolverine win even one out of ten though?

😘

Originally posted by jinzin
honestly.. probably a lucky shot in which wonder woman tries to go hand to hand...

i very seldom give 10/10 though....

Originally posted by jinzin
leonidas you know how I feel about using feats as a standard of evidence here.. the character's are more than just a heap of statistics...

but I agree wholly.. she definetely doesn't need to pummel him to win.. the argument I made was simply one that was against those who think she can do so with one hit...

cap is hard person to use as your standard because even scrolls that move so fast they appear as if teleporters have trouble hitting cap... he's just that damned good...

spiderman has his spider sense.. and wolverine's never really had trouble hitting him when he was trying to land a hit save secret wars... so... that's not really an accurate standard either.. 😕

as I said before.. I think it would be very difficult for wolvie to even land a hit.. I just don't think that guarantees her a 10/10 win here...

true 'nuff about spidey. the cap issue IS relevent i think only because she is likely as skilled a combatant as he is AND faster.

i get what you're saying though. you're also assuming one hit will end her. that would depend where. his chance of landing a one shot likking blow are . . . slim at best . . .

i don't give 10/10 much either. but she's like him in a lot of ways -- only better in every way.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Okay 1) if she decides to go H2H she still resoundingly trounces him. 2) The lucky shot would probably be a 1 out of at least 1,000 of these H2H fights, let alone all possible fights, so effectively she still wins 10/10.

Originally posted by leonidas
true 'nuff about spidey. the cap issue IS relevent i think only because she is likely as skilled a combatant as he is AND faster.

i get what you're saying though. you're also assuming one hit will end her. that would depend where. his chance of landing a one shot likking blow are . . . slim at best . . .

i don't give 10/10 much either. but she's like him in a lot of ways -- only better in every way.

except when it comes to being vs. peircing weapons... 😛

naw i don't mean that one hit will end her... not always at least.. just that it would effiectively reduced her battlefield effectiveness and turn the tide more in his favor...

Originally posted by jinzin
i simply don't agree.. once again logan's being underestimated...

She can deflect machine gunfire from about a foot or away from all directions... and I believe she was blind at the time but will have to check on that...

She's incredibly skilled.. imo moreso than Logan...

She can fly and fight at speeds that make him look like a snail...

Yet you put the likelihood of a stray lucky claw stab getting her enough to down her as high as 1/10 odds?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Or, you it's just possible that... Wonder Woman is being underestimated by you...

She can deflect machine gunfire from about a foot or away from all directions... and I believe she was blind at the time but will have to check on that...

She's incredibly skilled.. imo moreso than Logan...

She can fly and fight at speeds that make him look like a snail...

Yet you put the likelihood of a stray lucky claw stab getting her enough to down her as high as 1/10 odds?

thing is.. guys like snake eyes and leoardo.. and gorgon have done the same against bullets...

diana's kinda proved that fighting superior fighters human or not is entirely different than blocking bullets... besides what's to guarantee that her brecelet safeguards against all of wolverine's claws?

Originally posted by jinzin
diana's kinda proved that fighting superior fighters human or not is entirely different than blocking bullets... besides what's to guarantee that her brecelet safeguards against all of wolverine's claws?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Are you saying that he can break the bracelets or that she's slower than him? Either way... 🤨

not saying either.. she blocks too high her arm gets cut.. too low her hand gets cut...