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quickFreeze says - <<just told a kid who started a thread that has been done before to use the search engine before starting a new thread and he got all defensive ("i'm new bleh bleh bleh"😉>>

okay. i'm that new guy.

1. i never said bleh bleh bleh - at least i don't remember saying that . . .
2. i haven't been a 'kid' for a lonnggg time
3. i usually DO try the search engine first - this time i didn't because i actually thought the mock-up was unique enough.

that said, i've read the last several pages of this thread and (barring the couple pages where a bunch of people were calling each other names and quoting south park) i learned a few things. some i liked, some i . . . question. when i first stumbled across this site i thought 'cripes, this is cool!' not to mention addictive. the site was really a lot of fun. and that IS the reason the site was set up, was it not - because discussing this type of thing is fun, it's a nice escape and you meet and chat with new people. i've been on for i guess a week or so and i've made a few threads. i think a couple were repeats because immediately upon joining i wasn't aware of the search engine.

now, a couple questions i have:

1. i asked this of quick freeze: why does it matter if a thread is repeated? when he suggested i use the search engine i was not at all defensive as he suggests. i simply said that if it HAS been done before, people simply will choose not to respond and the repeat thread will die. however, even if a thread HAS been done before, doesn't mean the repeat thread won't work. ie - the taskmaster v batman thread i started has generated some great instruction and 60 responses. the thread HAS been done before, but it didn't generate even half that many replies. why? because new people join, new opinions are gathered and new threads of discussion happen.

people see the first page, they don't want to bother looking through past threads to find a discussion that has been dead for 4 months. as much as you may disagree with this, i believe that IS the prevailing tendency. so again - why does it matter if a thread is repeated? a repeat thread can obviously generate discussion, and if it's been done to death people simply won't respond. as a newbie/unsalted (???) that's the thing that bothers me most - no one responding to a posted thread. i'm also a little unclear as to why it seems to be considered a good thing NOT to post threads.

2. why keep all the old threads? if you really see a need to eliminate repeats, why keep all the old threads? some of them have existed for a long time. why not simply clear the data base every couple months? seriously, i'm NOT trying to be the 'new prick on the block', i just really am curious. i checked the posting dates of all the threads on the first page - almost all of them have been posted today or yesterday. i glanced at the second page - they generally went back a little further - a couple days - but still, all very recent and many have had great, non-confrontational - discussions. my point? people look at the first page, they look at the match ups in front of them and they comment. again, if they think it's been overdone, they don't respond which has happened to me and a number of others.

your site is great, this forum is very unique. this veteran v newbie thing does NOT make me comfortable. we are posting about imaginary comic fights! i was sucked in immediately so something is obviously working quite well in this forum. why the need (and desire) to regulate it so harshly? i understand some of teh assinine remarks that are made can be done away with. problem, a site like this will be used by kids. and kids say and do stupid things. as a teacher, i wish i could moderate stupidity out of my classroom, unfortunately it will always be there.

i really enjoy the forum but i don't see the point in overregulating and trying to make it more than what it is - a cool place for people to talk about a cool subject. isn't that enough?

Originally posted by leonidas
1. i asked this of quick freeze: why does it matter if a thread is repeated? when he suggested i use the search engine i was not at all defensive as he suggests. i simply said that if it HAS been done before, people simply will choose not to respond and the repeat thread will die.

it may or may not "die" but it will force other threads off the first page and clog up the forum with things most of us have seen posted 5 or 6 times like "Superman V's Goku"...... many original threads wont even be seen by people who don't visit every day

Originally posted by leonidas
however, even if a thread HAS been done before, doesn't mean the repeat thread won't work. ie - the taskmaster v batman thread i started has generated some great instruction and 60 responses. the thread HAS been done before, but it didn't generate even half that many replies. why? because new people join, new opinions are gathered and new threads of discussion happen.

some of them will get new responses, however if you had found the previous thread of the same topic and posted in that it would have the same effect without needleslly creating another repeat thread...... some won't get a lot of new replies and "die"..... but in doing so they will push out the more popular or unique threads

p.s.......... i really hate being repetitive in my posts...... are there any more words for "thread" i could use...... lol

Originally posted by leonidas
people see the first page, they don't want to bother looking through past threads to find a discussion that has been dead for 4 months. as much as you may disagree with this, i believe that IS the prevailing tendency. so again - why does it matter if a thread is repeated? a repeat thread can obviously generate discussion, and if it's been done to death people simply won't respond. as a newbie/unsalted (???) that's the thing that bothers me most - no one responding to a posted thread. i'm also a little unclear as to why it seems to be considered a good thing NOT to post threads.

2. why keep all the old threads? if you really see a need to eliminate repeats, why keep all the old threads? some of them have existed for a long time. why not simply clear the data base every couple months? seriously, i'm trying to be the 'new prick on the block', i just really am curious. i checked the posting dates of all the threads on the first page - almost all of them have been posted today or yesterday. i glanced at the second page - they generally went back a little further - a couple days - but still, all very recent and many have had great, non-confrontational - discussions. my point? people look at the first page, they look at the match ups in front of them and they comment. again, if they think it's been overdone, they don't respond which has happened to me and a number of others.

your site is great, this forum is very unique. this veteran v newbie thing does NOT make me comfortable. we are posting about imaginary comic fights! i was sucked in immediately so something is obviously working quite well in this forum. why the need (and desire) to regulate it so harshly? i understand some of teh assinine remarks that are made can be done away with. problem, a site like this will be used by kids. and kids say and do stupid things. as a teacher, i wish i could moderate stupidity out of my classroom, unfortunately it will always be there.

i really enjoy the forum but i don't see the point in overregulating and trying to make it more than what it is - a cool place for people to talk about a cool subject. isn't that enough?

Hey bud..welcome aboard!! Word of advice 4 ya though...chill a bit..as you said this is just a comic book forumn..no need to over-analyze. Don't get too offended by what peeps say and post in here, because believe me it gets a lot worse....lol...so just sit back have a brew..and rant about whatever...

<<Hey bud..welcome aboard!! Word of advice 4 ya though...chill a bit..as you said this is just a comic book forumn..no need to over-analyze. Don't get too offended by what peeps say and post in here, because believe me it gets a lot worse....lol...so just sit back have a brew..and rant about whatever...>>

now that's the best bit of advice (and nicest greeting) i've heard yet! by the way, i've been TRYING to chill but have gotten some . . . flack from a couple 'longtimers'. apologies if the post came across more harshly than i intended. the bit about overanalyzing this site though is EXACTLY what i was trying to say. it just took me about . . . a thousand more words than it took you.

cheers!

Originally posted by leonidas
<<Hey bud..welcome aboard!! Word of advice 4 ya though...chill a bit..as you said this is just a comic book forumn..no need to over-analyze. Don't get too offended by what peeps say and post in here, because believe me it gets a lot worse....lol...so just sit back have a brew..and rant about whatever...>>

now that's the best bit of advice (and nicest greeting) i've heard yet! by the way, i've been TRYING to chill but have gotten some . . . flack from a couple 'longtimers'. apologies if the post came across more harshly than i intended. the bit about overanalyzing this site though is EXACTLY what i was trying to say. it just took me about . . . a thousand more words than it took you.

cheers!

lol..No problem..a lot of the peeps who criticize here are half retarded anyway...I've had people in here criticize my grammar..and not even spell the word "grammar" correctly while doing so...lol....anyway...see ya around...

i understand where you're coming from leonidas and like i said in leader brawl i dont mean to be anal. this IS just for fun and i have been critisized for making "stupid threads". like whobdamandog said, dont get offended. scoobless pretty much summed up why repeats can get annoying. we're all just here to have fun and i myself getting annoyed when people take it too seriously. finally, as embarassing as it is, the only reason i commented on your thread was because, well, i was the one who started the 1st one and i was afraid that your's would get more popular than mine cuz mine only last about a page 😮

nevertheless i was only trying to inform you of the rules, i was not flaming you or anything like that. i didnt at all mean to be a bully and i actually consider myself to be somewhat new. i came here about a month or 2 before the huge rush of new people came. right when i adapted to how everything worked on this forum, it completely changed, and i got frusturated because all of the common courtesies that i have picked up on were thrown out the window. people were mean to each other and completely unorganized (not talking about you) and many people who i met and began to like on this forum left because of it. so no hard feelings?

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
scoobless pretty much summed up why repeats can get annoying.

yes, i'm very, very, very wise......... you should always listen to me on account of my wisedom, wiseness and general wiseosity

smartass

Welcome leonidas.
Have fun!

<<so no hard feelings?>>

of course there's no hard feelings! kind of funny 'bout your post though. sorry 'bout that. and thanks long pig (?? don't even want to know what that means) and i plan on having some fun. i've had tons already. i've even learned a couple things, like 'wiseosity' for instance. when i teach the kids in my class that word and they go tell the parents, any complaints i get will be met with scoobless's email addy.

if someone wouldn't mind though - can you please tell me why the older threads are not deleted? especially in lieu of the fact that there does seem to be something of an issue regarding repeat threads. while it's true you might get the same threads posted a lot, there would be different opinions and thoughts voiced in these repeats, and perhaps even some new info. IS there a reason old posts are kept?

well i dont know why i didnt think of this before but i'm in an other forum that i'm in whenever thread are repeated the mods "merge" them. i'm gonna pm tron and paola about it right now.

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
well i dont know why i didnt think of this before but i'm in an other forum that i'm in whenever thread are repeated the mods "merge" them. i'm gonna pm tron and paola about it right now.

its simple, they would merge them but there are simply too many... the mods spend hours just catching up...

well then the idea of having a mod just for that comes up

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
well then the idea of having a mod just for that comes up

true...

i pmed paola about it, we'll see what she says. . .

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
i pmed paola about it, we'll see what she says. . .

paola knows whats going on, trust me...

the simple problem is that a new member comes on (not all, just some), and makes maybe ten threads, bumping other threads off the page... and most of them have been done before...

if the search doesnt display, then ok, its understandable, but come on... how many batman v captain america threads are there?

i refuse to believe that every search they do comes up blank...

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
<<well then the idea of having a mod just for that comes up>>

ha! and scoobless thinks HE has wiseosity . . . just imagine, something productive may actually come from all this. cool.

well for me the search thread doesn't work. mauybe i'mn doin it wrong. i don't see why they werge the threads also. or they could have this thing where they can ask people to contribute and stuff and everyone can help to write down every thread created in this. don't write down the repeated ones. then put all the the list in a thread and put it at the top of the page. and have a search thing thing there whree you type in the name of a character and every =thread with that characters name in it comes up. this is only an idea and would take forever to actually make. it prolly won't even work but its an idea

oh and leonidas WELCOME!!!!

Originally posted by stormfront13
well for me the search thread doesn't work. mauybe i'mn doin it wrong. i don't see why they werge the threads also. or they could have this thing where they can ask people to contribute and stuff and everyone can help to write down every thread created in this. don't write down the repeated ones. then put all the the list in a thread and put it at the top of the page. and have a search thing thing there whree you type in the name of a character and every =thread with that characters name in it comes up. this is only an idea and would take forever to actually make. it prolly won't even work but its an idea

don't use the google search, use the vb one...