Originally posted by pr1983
he doesnt have to reach up, theres an override switch on his glove, he'd have to flick his wrist, nothing more...
Originally posted by pr1983
if punisher goes for the kill cyclops will defend himself, he wont simply let punisher kill him...and besides... if punisher does try to break the visor, a blast will emerge anyway...
Originally posted by Khellendros
Okay, fine, so Punisher shakes his hand once, then instead of letting go yanks him off balance, making Cyke miss and giving him time to draw a gun with the other hand.
he could try... and your assuming cyclops cant do the same...
Originally posted by long pig
Yea, Punisher probably dies either way, but if cyclops visor breaks he'll keep his eyes closed, long enough for someone to knife him.
thats the thing, if punisher goes for the visor, cyke will know his next move will be a killer one, so he will blast him...
Originally posted by long pig
how many humans have cyclops killed? 2? maybe less.
its out of character for him to kill.anyways IMO im giving cyclops the win, yet yer still arguing with me!
not officially a win but to me yea, but cyke dies too. even trade.
im not arguing, just stressing a point 😛
cyclops is smart enough to know how hard to hit castle without killing him, and if his visor is smashed... well... bye bye castle...
Originally posted by long pig
frank sucks against superhumans, always have. he isnt gonna beat cyclops, not to work for the enemy here, just being honest.Blackpather on the otherhand....this foo has plans for galactus.
cyclops takes punisher, BP gives Cyclops an extra smile with his claws.
whos supposed to be taking panther?
Originally posted by long pig
batman i think, BP will only need to stray for a half second to slice cyk up, he's fast enough.
Batman will appreciate the second wind, cuz he sure as hell will need it by messing with BP.OT:
How powerful is a full optic blast? its a concussive blast, in the few ton range? whats your opinon?
Depends on the target really... and the fact that cyke on average uses the least powerful beam...
Originally posted by pr1983
Depends on the target really... and the fact that cyke on average uses the least powerful beam...
im just thinking if his beam could penetrate kevlar like vests, punisher has a full body kevlar suit with goggles to match.
like a bulletproof frog man.
Originally posted by Khellendros
In his miniseries, he even admits that he's risking shattering his bones or passing out from exhaustion. Deathstroke can put up with any punishment Tasky can hand out until the doofus shatters his own skeleton.
TM can strike with his shield, gun, sword..... or any other weapon to avoid injuring his bones.......... the exhaustion thing was because he'd been shot and was losing blood
Originally posted by long pig
the thing about cyclops his he will lose a fight if you break his glasses, he doesnt want to hurt innocents...if punisher can punch his vison and break it, cyke is out of the game.
i've never seen Cyclops visor be broken from a punch.......PR you seem to know more about him, you ever seen a regular human break that visor thing he wears?
Originally posted by long pig
holding out info are you?
you shady lil bastard. 😛im just thinking if his beam could penetrate kevlar like vests, punisher has a full body kevlar suit with goggles to match.
like a bulletproof frog man.
even in bullet proof armour bullets still hurt...... like taking a solid punch, it would wind or put down anyone for a sec..... Cyc's blast is pure force......... it'd be like wearing a bullet proof vest and stepping in front of a car....... almost worthless there
even in bullet proof armour bullets still hurt...... like taking a solid punch, it would wind or put down anyone for a sec..... Cyc's blast is pure force......... it'd be like wearing a bullet proof vest and stepping in front of a car....... almost worthless there
True. Kevlar's far from fool-proof. It still has a margin of error where it goes through the vest, even in comic books. When it doesn't, the force is enough to leave large welts, bruise or crack ribs, etc. Frank has an incredibly high pain threshold, but that can give even him pause. No way Cyke's optic blast does anything but disable him for the rest of the fight. Cyke's uniform is also either unstable molecules or shi'ar tech, he's fine against bullets.
[Punisher]
The X-Boyscout is dead.
The stipulation that combat begins on a handshake gives me all the edge I need. It will only take less than 3 seconds to turn the handshake into a reverse armbar and put 20-30 AP rounds into Cyke's lower back and kidney with my M-60 (basic hand to hand military training), and I come to the dance with it drawn. That's also more than enough time for the VX gas (which was released upon our hands clasping in the handshake) to render Cyke useless. Cyke's beams are a hindrance in such extemely close quarters combat, they're better suited for taking out opponents from a distance, especially against someone as highly trained and battle hardened as me. Plus, his own moral hang-ups will make him hesitant to unleash full force near civilians (which is displayed numerous times in the comics). That's all I need. Cyke is a military trained physical specimen with concussive eye beams, he's not superhuman physically in terms of strength, speed or reflexes. I can and will take him, and then I'm gunning for Canary (if she's not already down), then the Bat...
Originally posted by illadelph12
[Punisher]The stipulation that combat begins on a handshake gives me all the edge I need. It will only take less than 3 seconds to turn the handshake into a reverse armbar
and it'll take the mutie 0-0.1 seconds to go from handshake to blastin' you're punk a$$ away....... i don't team often and when i do i don't team with pu$$ies, Cyc may be less than peak physically but he got a spot on the team for his power..... and it's more than enough to take down the childless, widow, crybaby you are Castle
"and it'll take the mutie 0-0.1 seconds to go from handshake to blastin' you're punk a$$ away....... i don't team often and when i do i don't team with pu$$ies, Cyc may be less than peak physically but he got a spot on the team for his power..... and it's more than enough to take down the childless, widow, crybaby you are Castle"
lmao you guys really get into the character
Oh, and as a side note regarding Cyke's armor;
Astonishing X-Men #4 & 5: Cyke gets gunned down by S.W.O.R.D agents working for Ord of Breakworld and lays there bleeding and hallucinating images of Jean. He eventually gets up, but it shows he can get capped. There's an image of the back of Cykes armor ripped open from the shots in AXM #4, pgs. 16-17.
lol
Scoob, Cyke's leader because of his leadership training, not his powers. He's far from the most powerful X-Man
On this team with Batman on the roster he's B League, maybe even C league.
and it'll take the mutie 0-0.1 seconds to go from handshake to blastin' you're punk a$$ away.......
Maybe for Dr. Doom with Cyke's powers, but that's not in Scott's personality, especially with civilians around.
What would Charles think of that?
Astonishing X-Men #4 & 5: Cyke get's gunned down by S.W.O.R.D agents working for Ord of Breakworld and lays there bleeding and hallucinating images of Jean. He eventually gets up, but it shows he can get capped. There's an image of the back of Cykes armor ripped open from the shots in AXM #4, pgs. 16-17.
That's dumb, the X-Men used to wear some high grade shit.