Inferno; Mission 1

Originally posted by stormfront13
in x-men classic nightcrawler had it on during a fighgt. he was fighting a shape shifter and his opponent turned into this big green monster thing and then nightcrawler modified his image inducer to make it look like he was an even bigger monster than his opponent. they were fighting the shiar and nightcrawler was figting some guy called hobgoblin i think it was but he was green

You say A in your statement. Which means that it is not frequently use and or a signature weapon.

"As for telepathy, controlling someones mind or intruding in someone's mind and implanting false images without permission is a hostile act. It infringes upon one's free will and is a form of incapacitation and, to a degree, molestation. You should have to make the rioters disperse of their own free will. That's the whole point."

Don't tell me what the point of the mission is, because I am the one that created it. The word molest is a verb that can either mean 1) to make indecent sexual advances to 2) To assault sexualy 3) to annoy, bother or interfere with. I doubt you are using it as a sexual term, so if telepathy is annoying them, it is not violent. Even if it makes them do things against their will, it still does not hurt them. I would also like to comment that Scoobless is correct in that I did not state that only violence to the crowd was banned. It is a loophole.

wait, so is it allowed??

First, theres a difference in mind control and commercials, dont pretend to be stupid.

Second, lady, you know what he meant by "molest", if you didnt..well...... I dont know how you down fall down more.

Third, telepathy is a hostile act, force is a type of violence, telepathy is all about force.
Telepathy may not hurt them at all, neither would sleeping gas, and you said: "sleeping gas is violence".

Double standards, anyone?

Im sure BadGuys would easily give up the "image inducer" idea if we could have sleeping gas.

There is no difference between telepathy- induced calm and sleeping gas-induced calm.

pigs got a point. telapathy can be an act of violence. and it can cause more rioting if someone can feel the illusion being cast which is totally posible cause storm, cyke, almoat all x-men can sence when someone is in their mind. xavier considers it an act of violence. he always asks if he can go in someones mind instead of just plunging in. jean grey was gonna use it against sebastion shaw in an old comic and his exact words were "go ahead miss grey, VIOLATE me." excatley violate and violence are colsely related.

There is a difference because telepathy isn't commanding them to do it. It is something that persuades their minds to do something. Which is why it is harder to use it on people with stronger minds, because their minds refuse to be persuaded as easily.

bit it can be considered an act of violence

Originally posted by stormfront13
pigs got a point. telapathy can be an act of violence. and it can cause more rioting if someone can feel the illusion being cast which is totally posible cause storm, cyke, almoat all x-men can sence when someone is in their mind. xavier considers it an act of violence. he always asks if he can go in someones mind instead of just plunging in. jean grey was gonna use it against sebastion shaw in an old comic and his exact words were "go ahead miss grey, VIOLATE me." excatley violate and violence are colsely related.

You say can. Which means it can be, but it isn't always. I feel it is only when you use it to mind-wipe or shut down a mind. The x-men can sense if someone is in their minds because they have received training, and are used to having a telepath in their head. If xavier thinks that is is violent, then he would not use it at all on the x-men or other friends of his. He is simply respecting their privacy. You are correct in that violate is closely related to violence, but when you are using telepathy, you do are not violating the person themselves, but their privacy. Like if I open the door on someone when they are doing something personal, I am not hurting them, I am simply violating their privacy. I think that you should stop pushing the whole image inducer for sleeping gas solution, because it isn't going to be allowed.

Originally posted by stormfront13
bit it can be considered an act of violence

C'mon good guys, I feel like I am arguing for you. Anyways, I don't see how persuading someone to do soemthing is violence.

why couldn't our image induver work?? both beast and nightcrawler have one and carry ot around w/ them

Originally posted by laydiiplayette
There is a difference because telepathy isn't commanding them to do it. It is something that persuades their minds to do something. Which is why it is harder to use it on people with stronger minds, because their minds refuse to be persuaded as easily.

So what you're saying is, telepathy isnt force..because it doesnt force their body, it forces their minds to do something?
Thats called just plain ol ignorning the facts.

Also, a strong willed person can resist sleep. You still havent answered me about the differences between Telepathy induced calm and sleep-induced calm, I wonder why? cuz there isnt any!

Your'e being exremely biased here.

i wouldn't say she's being biased

Originally posted by laydiiplayette
C'mon good guys, I feel like I am arguing for you. Anyways, I don't see how persuading someone to do soemthing is violence.

You ARE arguing for them, not very neutral.

I am arguing for my views on telepathy, not for them. If i was arguing for them, then I would change the rules to say "No violence allowed, telepathy is allowed". Hmm, maybe I should do that. If you want me to stop arguing about my views, then I will simply go with what I think, and say that telepathy is not violence. If I was biased, I wouldn't even be listening to your views.

Good to know. 🙂

yes, please don't anger ladii she can give penalties

But what exactly are the differences between low-powerful sleeping gas and high/medium powered telepathy? 😛

Telepathy can do a variety of things, and sleeping gas can only put its victim to sleep. One was created to put people to sleep and the other to read other's thoughts.

Originally posted by stormfront13
yes, please don't anger ladii she can give penalties

But i never meant any insults if you took it that way, ladii.

Why are we so hooked on stopping them with their telepathy??? I mean, there's no way that one lower-lemiddle level class telepath ill stop a huge crowd of pwople alone. If we are to come up with a good plan (WWHICH I DID!!!!) we can win this. Just move fastre and more efficiently. As a not so wise dude once posted as his sig. (😉) don't curse th darkness, light a cndle (Sorry, I don' remember whos this was, otherwise I'd say so, sorry dude. Mad props all the same 😄). The best defense is the best offense, sais my dad. We attack strong and there plan will not be much of a problem. Anyway, Psy is a tireing buissiness. Much more so than, say, carrying people (just an example)
And Khell, you've got to get it togethor, bro. Your plans must be flexible in order for us to take this badboy. Listen to my plan. It is good. Especially since yours (no offense 😛) sucks. So here is the new revised version:
We have Beast and Night transform into a crazy beast and a ou child, respectively. Beast runs in, like he wants to attack everyone. He grabs the 'kid' and starts shaking him. Wolvy runs in all crazyand attacks the beast. the two skuffle for a while before Logan comes out on top. He helps the kid up and waves to the crowd. 'It's ok now. The threat is gone, folks. (something along those lines)'
It takes advantage of our best source of advantage, we are heroes. We save people, it's our THING. And I know I would feel a hellofalot calmerif I knew I was being protected by a dude who could slice up a huge monster. See? It also sais: I'm a badass. F with me nd you won't walk away with legs tonight. ot that, bub? It also works pretty quick, once the crowd sees a motion in the mob, they will follow. Basic mob-mentality. So the fear will evaporate quickly.
Now please Khell. I'm begging you!! I want to win, you want to win. LISTEN TO ME!!! It follows the rules and is very efficient. It frees up the rest of the gang for any misc. tasks. In case you haven't noticed, all I've done so far was bring up good points and good (neglected but good...) points. I'm the only badass who's come up with a halfdecent plan so far. I'm among our top three, you KNOW that I'm a consistent arguer. So just listen to me.

Originally posted by laydiiplayette
Telepathy can do a variety of things, and sleeping gas can only put its victim to sleep. One was created to put people to sleep and the other to read other's thoughts.

Actually sleeping gas can be used for a ton of different problems Low-level gas can be used for truth seirum, a calming effect...even make people forget things that just happened.

Strong-sleeping gas puts people to sleep, which still doesnt hurt them, telepathy in your stated opinon does the same...why say one is allowed but not the other?

Telepathy is used the same way, each affect the person the same way.