Inferno; Mission 1

I create a fog. Throw you shield through THAT!!! iatch. lol jk. I then cause it to get REAL muggy. It then gets real windy. The fog blows away. Cap gets touch by an alectric hand. (he dind't hear me approach because of the wind. 😉)

Oh, and Storm, it's assassin. You said '... highy (it's highly) trained assasins...'. Get my point?

she will react quick enough- she does all the time. justb face it and say he has no way of beating her. the inferno cage is big she has time to react. its not like they start back to back they are spread out. she has numerous ways of beating him and he only has one for her. the shield won't be hitting her she can react quick enough.

Originally posted by Scoobless
apparently the shield can be thrown at 200mph (captjk's figure) across a few feet of cage that gives Storm almost no time to get out the way or create a wind system to attempt to push the shield off course..... Cap has studied up on almost all the known "supers" (i've been watching the Incedibles) and knows Storms abilities...... power isn't everything.... Cap is THEE master strategist of marvel's field combatants.... Storm may be more powerful but he'd win 8 out of 10 of their matches in a cage

No, he wouldn't.

There are large factors you are not taking into account:

1) Cap has to motion his throw, i.e., telegraph the motion. Storm will see it coming, and have 25 feet of distance to work with. She'll have at least 2-4 seconds. Cap does not have a shield launcher, he has to swing his arm back and then forward to throw the shield, and also gauge the size, distance, and angle of his target, and also factor for if it's a moving target. It's not as simple as you are attempting to make it seem.

2) Storm does not need that much time to generate winds (or lightning). She weighs about 110-130 pounds and can fly at above Mach speeds RIDING THE WIND, and keeps up with other X-team members that fly. If necessary, I'll give examples from the comics of occasions of her keeping up with Rogue, Sunfire, and other characters with high flight speeds with ease from initial take off. She can generate high velocity winds instantaneously, generating a full fledged Biblical force torrential hurricane with rain, volkswahon sized hail stones, a sky so thickly clouded the sun's light is completely blacked out, earth trembling thunder, and thousands upon thousands of lightning bolts is another story, and would take her time to generate.

3) Studying someone's powers, and knowing what they will do with those powers in any given situation are completely different things. Cap relies on intuition, knowledge, and athleticism. He's a good strategist, but it's all based on variables out of his control. If his guess is wrong, he's screwed in this situation considering his opponent's arsenal.

4) Storm is also a skilled combatant and has dealt with projectiles (daggers, arrows, etc.) being thrown/shot at her before, at times from a closer proximity, and dodged them with ease, and they were not as large, cumbersome and obvious as Cap's shield. He's not throwing small shuriken at her that will be hard for her to see and counter, he's throwing the equivalent of a 28" Spreewell Spinner truck rim at her from 25 feet away. She's going to see it coming.

This is not a fist fight.

Steroids, military training, and a large metal shield can't overcome nature's fury.

Cap is going down.

Oh, and Storm, it's assassin. You said '... highy (it's highly) trained assasins...'. Get my point? [/B][/QUOTE]

lol thanks for that

Originally posted by Scoobless
Cap beats Storm in a cage, if Emma goes diamond then i doubt Dazz or SW can hurt her, your other prediction is a much closer battle and could go either way

Cap almost [B]never misses [/B]

"Almost" is the key word there. He has missed before. And this was when he was fighitng under conditions in which the wind likely wasn't prone to sudden changes. With Storm willing the wind to knock that shield off of it's path, it has no chance of hitting, ont he rebound or otherwise.

Originally posted by Scoobless
[QUOTE=3714955]Originally posted by Scoobless
[B] if Emma goes diamond then i doubt Dazz or SW can hurt her, QUOTE]

i forgot about Dazz's laser..... but everyone else seems to be forgetting that Emma has a teammate here..... if you all feel the need to point out that Emma can't win solo, then you must be worried about her as a threat.... therefore her with a partner should win

Originally posted by Scoobless
apparently the shield can be thrown at 200mph (captjk's figure) across a few feet of cage that gives Storm almost no time to get out the way or create a wind system to attempt to push the shield off course..... Cap has studied up on almost all the known "supers" (i've been watching the Incedibles) and knows Storms abilities...... power isn't everything.... Cap is THEE master strategist of marvel's field combatants.... Storm may be more powerful but he'd win 8 out of 10 of their matches in a cage

Originally posted by pr1983
ok firstly... emma is easily too powerful for sw and dazzler... what bullshittery is this? a spidersense can dodge telepathic attacks? yeah right...

emma and huntress win easily...

yeah anyway emma is powerful and right under xavier but still it will only take a second to shoot a laser at her. i see a douible ko here(maybe) the smart thing for emma to do woukd be toi go in the fihgt already diamons seeing as she doesn't know what she's up against. then it would be a fight.

Originally posted by illadelph12
1) Cap has to motion his throw, i.e., telegraph the motion. Storm will see it coming, and have 25 feet of distance to work with. She'll have at least 2-4 seconds.

It'd be MUCH less than 4 seconds..... probably less than 1

Originally posted by illadelph12
2) Storm does not need that much time to generate winds (or lightning). She weighs about 110-130 pounds and can fly at above Mach speeds RIDING THE WIND

If she gets anywhere near mach speed in a cage thats only a few feet across she'll mince herself..... lol.... Cap wins by default

Originally posted by illadelph12
3) Studying someone's powers, and knowing what they will do with those powers in any given situation are completely different things. Cap relies on intuition, knowledge, and athleticism. He's a good strategist, but it's all based on variables out of his control. If his guess is wrong, he's screwed in this situation considering his opponent's arsenal.

Perhaps...... but Cap's ability to use his knowledge in a fight is almost always impressive..... she isn't going to be able to get out of the way without hitting a flight speed that'd slam her into a cage wall

Originally posted by illadelph12
4) Storm is also a skilled combatant

Compared to Captain America she's a novice on her first training lesson

Originally posted by Khellendros
I'm not even sure what you jsut said, other than mentioning that Emma has a partner. I didn't forget about Huntress, but she's a friggin rich girl with a crossbow. She drives a Lamborghini to her fights, for f*cks sake!

i didn't say much about her cos i knew nothing about her

but if she's got a crossbow she can take Dazz out no sweat

😄

no way that cap can throw his shield in less than one second. if he did it wouldn't go very gfar. like others have mentioned he will be telegraphing his throw cause he has to to throw it properly and powerfully. she's not stupid, she's one of the smartest x-men. she will seee that he will be throwing it and therefore have the chance to get out of the way

Originally posted by Scoobless
i didn't say much about her cos i knew nothing about her

but if she's got a crossbow she can take Dazz out no sweat

😄

Well from all I know of Huntress. She's not nearly as good as Nightwing, Batman, and Robin. And she's got a lot of anger, and doesn't think just attacks.

😕 Then again I know nothing of Dazzler.

I do know Huntress has no chance against Spider Woman.

huntress in not taking dazzler out. i mean huntress is one of my favs but serously dazzler is really powerful. she will just create a forcefield that can both deflect oncoming attacks or ionize(i think that was what it was called) oncoming attacks

can dazler create forcefields?

i'm not that familiar with any of the girls in this match..... can i get a link

yeah she can and i'll find a few links for ya

Originally posted by Scoobless
can dazler create forcefields?

i'm not that familiar with any of the girls in this match..... can i get a link

Originally posted by Scoobless
i didn't say much about her cos i knew nothing about her

but if she's got a crossbow she can take Dazz out no sweat

😄

EDIT: Oh, and yes Dazler CAN create a forcefield. Look at the alst paragraph under powers. http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/dazzler.htm

heres one dazzler link

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=67

heres another

http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/search.php

well anyway i see the badasses only losing a few if not any fights

Does Mandarin get to use any of his rings? If so, which one or ones?

If you think about it, Storm is more of an open field fighter, whereas Cap's military & martial arts training gives him some advantage in close quarters like the cage. In the open, he wouldn't be able to reach Storm, but in a cage he has the leg strength to push off the walls to get to Storm or ricochet his shield at her.

he will be out before then. one lightning bolt and he's done. a person can't take a lightning bolt and keep fighting. some people don't even come back from half the power of one.