storm VS electro(current upgrade)

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Yes, but there is not such type as "electromagnetic energy". What consists of electromagnetic spectrum consists of radio waves, microwaves, terahertz radiation, infrared radiation, visible radiation (on other words, light), ultraviolet light, x-rays, and gamma rays. Storm on that scan just seems to use positive lightning discharge on the suit, which can cause an Electromagnetic pulse. She does not have control of the entire electromagnetic spectrum.

Magneto, for example does.

Originally posted by montrail
???I don't get what you are trying to say?

And to my knowledge...doesn't Electro fly? And if not, he can still boost his own abilities to take Storm out quickly.

What I'm saying here, is that Storm cannot produce anything that the Earth cannot support. That also means she cannot make any naturally-occurring weather any more powerful than it's full, natural potential. So, she can hit you with the most powerful hurricane, but she can't hit you with a hurricane that is somehow more powerful than anything the Earth can support. See what I mean?

I brought up Electro's ability to fly to counter your earthquake scenario. Kinda hard for an earthquake to cause much damage when you're not on the Earth.

Your misunderstanding me. I said "She has the entire electromagnetic spectrum backing her up", not that she controls it. And all of what you listed is electromagnetic energy.

Yes, but she has not shown control over electromagnetic energy types themselves, just lightning, so I'm not sure what you mean by that. She is able to manipulate weather patterns, but EM spectrum does not help her much in that.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
What I'm saying here, is that Storm cannot produce anything that the Earth cannot support. That also means she cannot make any naturally-occurring weather any more powerful than it's full, natural potential. So, she can hit you with the most powerful hurricane, but she can't hit you with a hurricane that is somehow more powerful than anything the Earth can support. See what I mean?

I brought up Electro's ability to fly to counter your earthquake scenario. Kinda hard for an earthquake to cause much damage when you're not on the Earth. [/B]

Originally posted by montrail
OH! I was confused 4 a sec,lol. But Storm has caused weather effects from a different planet (Jupiter) on earth. So I guess she can create weather that the earth can't handle. Unless you mean something else?

I assume you're referring to the Jovian Pressure field, correct? Yes, I've seen that in action since I, too, own that comic.

Pressure is a bit different than other forms of weather. For example, man has created devices that can GREATLY exceed natural pressures on Earth. Pressure is just one of those things that can be manipulated more so than others.

However, she could not, for example, produce a lightning bolt more powerful than what the Earth can support. Do you know what I mean?

Originally posted by Metalmanx

However, she could not, for example, produce a lightning bolt more powerful than what the Earth can support. Do you know what I mean?

Yes and no. It true she can't make lightning effects greater then the planet can support but she has shown the ability to tap into she EM field of the universe and create lightning in outer space.

So in theory, she can produce lightning much greater then find on Earth. Now if she would survive the discharge is another thing.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Yes and no. It true she can't make lightning effects greater then the planet can support but she has shown the ability to tap into she EM field of the universe and create lightning in outer space.

So in theory, she can produce lightning much greater then find on Earth. Now if she would survive the discharge is another thing.

Ah, but you and I are in secretly in agreement.

"she has shown the ability to tap into the EM field of the universe and create lightning in outer space."

See, she can tap into it and create something more powerful outside of Earth, but she couldn't have produced that same lightning bolt while she was in the Earth's atmosphere.

Same deal when she visits other planets. She has just that planet's weather at her disposal then. Be it weaker or far stronger than Earth's. It just all depends on where she is located. Her powers, basically, are dependent on her environment?

Wouldn't you agree?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I assume you're referring to the Jovian Pressure field, correct? Yes, I've seen that in action since I, too, own that comic.

Pressure is a bit different than other forms of weather. For example, man has created devices that can GREATLY exceed natural pressures on Earth. Pressure is just one of those things that can be manipulated more so than others.

However, she could not, for example, produce a lightning bolt more powerful than what the Earth can support. Do you know what I mean?

Originally posted by Metalmanx

Wouldn't you agree? [/B]

Yep 🙂. Her power greatly depend on her location.

Then why was she able to create pressure not found on earth?

Originally posted by montrail
Then why was she able to create pressure not found on earth?

Go check my answer to this in the Sub-Mariner vs. Storm thread.

Pressure is different.

But its still weather control.

Originally posted by montrail
Before I even said that I proved my point. You never do. And stop with that sister crap because wuite frankly, its probably a lie.

oh please, you haven't proved shit. seriously it's kinda funny how you think your this whole big huge ass debator and has schooled everyone when in actual reality(you know the stuff that happens outside your head) your getting quite the beatdown. and the sister things true. i've been at an orientation type thing for a very, very long time. my sister...who also happens to be only 11 was impersonating me. you can believe it or not but it's the truth.

Originally posted by montrail
Your misunderstanding me. I said "She has the entire electromagnetic spectrum backing her up", not that she controls it. And all of what you listed is electromagnetic energy.

What I'm saying here, is that Storm cannot produce anything that the Earth cannot support. That also means she cannot make any naturally-occurring weather any more powerful than it's full, natural potential. So, she can hit you with the most powerful hurricane, but she can't hit you with a hurricane that is somehow more powerful than anything the Earth can support. See what I mean?

She once produced a jovian pressure field that is stronger than the ones in Jupiter. That is something unnatural here. It just proves that she can create things far greater than laws of nature here on Earth.

Also, in one issue, she produced a tempest in Israel bending the natural in that certain area. Which means that she produced something greater than what has been recorded in the past in that said country.

Not if it counts, but she also said to the Human Torch that she can level mountains with her winds. No mountains have ever bent to the Earth winds, no matter how strong they are. The Storm I know is cocky, but I don't think she lies too much. If she can create phenomenas greater than the Earth's capacity (as have been proven), then I'd say her claim is warranted and thus, proves the claim that she can really create phenomas with greater magnitude than what is naturally occuring here on Earth.

Yup. Perfectly said RisingStorm.

Originally posted by RisingStorm
She once produced a jovian pressure field that is stronger than the ones in Jupiter. That is something unnatural here. It just proves that she can create things far greater than laws of nature here on Earth.

Also, in one issue, she produced a tempest in Israel bending the natural in that certain area. Which means that she produced something greater than what has been recorded in the past in that said country.

Not if it counts, but she also said to the Human Torch that she can level mountains with her winds. No mountains have ever bent to the Earth winds, no matter how strong they are. The Storm I know is cocky, but I don't think she lies too much. If she can create phenomenas greater than the Earth's capacity (as have been proven), then I'd say her claim is warranted and thus, proves the claim that she can really create phenomas with greater magnitude than what is naturally occuring here on Earth.

I understand what you're saying. And you're right. Storm (a lot of times) is a cocky one indeed. She makes Wolverine seem humble sometimes.

Like I said earlier, however, pressure is a bit different in terms of weather. Pressure doesn't quite follow the same guidelines. Man has already produced methods of increasing pressure to levels not naturally found. So, it makes sense that Storm could do so.

However, she also didn't envelop the entire planet in this Jovian Pressure Dome, but only a small, approximately 15' sphere. That makes it much more believable that she would be able to do it, concentrating it on such a small, isolated spot.

??I don'tget what your saying? Did someone say she could do it throughout the world?

Originally posted by montrail
??I don'tget what your saying? Did someone say she could do it throughout the world?

I'm pretty sure you mentioned something about it in another thread.

But if not, my apologies. I still stand by what I said, however.

Oh okay.