"okay, first off, i have never seen or heard about a straw being pushed through a brick. Gimme an example, please... cuz i've heard of poles being shoved through walls, but never a straw through a brick"
Check out the last few issues of Xtreme xmen and you'll witness it in storms battle wiv emma frost. It happens in real life and there have been many scientific simulations of it just google the subject.
'back to actually moving him... he can cause himself to become a super-magnet with whatever he wishes (most likely the ground in this case) making himself immobile to outside forces, and incredibly mobile for himself.'
Who said anything about moving him? If he was airborne then yes she could very well move him and relocate him to terra firma at 300mph. But if he was on the ground then yes he could do that super magnet thing theoretically but it would take all his might to stay in that one place without being moved by her winds therefore he wouldnt have anything left for an offensive. If that happens to magneto then it sure as hell is gonna happen to him so there really shouldnt be any argument saying otherwise.
'he is able to completely disrupt the electrical currents of his enemy's brain, effectively paralyzing him (or her) within mere seconds.'
Storm can manipulate a persons electrical field as well but so far i have only heard of her using this ability to threaten to stop shinobi shaws heart. Electros sole ability is electricity therefore he would obviously have more control in that area than storm. Maybe this is the limit of how precicsely she can affect a person inner workings while electros you have stated. My argument is that she would be able to resist this as she has the same ability but less control over it. Plus those who manipulate electromagnetic energies such as storm, polaris mags and electro naturally have an electrical field around them which cause interference for would be tamperers and telepathic probes. Its her other abilities that would gain her a win. Ive already discussed all of these points in previous posts. If u wanna find out why storm owns electros ass then browse thru this thread. A win for Storm!!!
Originally posted by stormfront13
but she can do the same it was mentioned a while ago to sebastion shaw. she has a ot of expierence m,anipulating electrical fields. she can most definitey keep him out long enough to take him out which she most definitley can. and if you don't believe me just read galactics posts
she is nowhere near as precise as electro...
i read all the posts...
maybe she can hold him off, but with his recent upgrade i say he could...
of course if its still in the desert then its a joke...
Originally posted by stormfront13
but she has expierence w/ it so she should be able to keep him out.
should... that depends on electro...
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
PR storm could resist his manipulations like she has when faced with polaris and magneto in the past and use her other powers none of which he is resistant to to bludgeon, drown or freeze him to death. Whichever one takes her fancy.
electro is not magneto, his powers are different, his method of attack is different...
and storm got lucky against magneto, back then magneto actually feared the xmen...
Theres too many ways for her to win. She has many weapons at her disposal all of which she is extremely skilled at commanding that electro doesnt have any resistance too and all of which could kill him. Electros sole power storm is resistant too. Again i say check her battles with mags and polaris. Old electro would have got thrashed. Kontraz talked about the new electros fighting style which would get him a win. Its such a pity that this new way of fighting he he chooses is such a rip off of mags and polaris all of who she is well versed in fighting, both of whom actually have the power to make their style effective and both of them have been bested by storms efforts. Oh well
Anyone reading this whole thread can see that those who believe storm would win this have but up a far more cnvincing argument as to why that would be the case. Those against have been reduced to nit picking on insignificant factors which would hold no weight in a fight to the death. Storm would win this get over it.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Anyone reading this whole thread can see that those who believe storm would win this have but up a far more cnvincing argument as to why that would be the case. Those against have been reduced to nit picking on insignificant factors which would hold no weight in a fight to the death. Storm would win this get over it.
wow... can you get any more condescending?
you just avoided peoples questions...
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
How did i ive answered them all in previous posts as you would know if you've read the whole thread.
i did, as i've said...
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
It would be condescending if i hadnt bothered to and i had said that. But anyone who actually reads my posts will know thats not the case
i did... you avoided other peoples arguments and any you didnt like you just claimed were insignicficant...
Ok show me someones argument ive avoided cos i havent at all. I have countered all queries which havent been already addressed at an early stage in the thread otherwise i just say look bk you'll find your answer there. Or something like that. However if i have done it then its unintentional and present me withe question again and i'll gladly answer
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
"okay, first off, i have never seen or heard about a straw being pushed through a brick. Gimme an example, please... cuz i've heard of poles being shoved through walls, but never a straw through a brick"Check out the last few issues of Xtreme xmen and you'll witness it in storms battle wiv emma frost. It happens in real life and there have been many scientific simulations of it just google the subject.
'back to actually moving him... he can cause himself to become a super-magnet with whatever he wishes (most likely the ground in this case) making himself immobile to outside forces, and incredibly mobile for himself.'
Who said anything about moving him? If he was airborne then yes she could very well move him and relocate him to terra firma at 300mph. But if he was on the ground then yes he could do that super magnet thing theoretically but it would take all his might to stay in that one place without being moved by her winds therefore he wouldnt have anything left for an offensive. If that happens to magneto then it sure as hell is gonna happen to him so there really shouldnt be any argument saying otherwise.
'he is able to completely disrupt the electrical currents of his enemy's brain, effectively paralyzing him (or her) within mere seconds.'
Storm can manipulate a persons electrical field as well but so far i have only heard of her using this ability to threaten to stop shinobi shaws heart. Electros sole ability is electricity therefore he would obviously have more control in that area than storm. Maybe this is the limit of how precicsely she can affect a person inner workings while electros you have stated. My argument is that she would be able to resist this as she has the same ability but less control over it. Plus those who manipulate electromagnetic energies such as storm, polaris mags and electro naturally have an electrical field around them which cause interference for would be tamperers and telepathic probes. Its her other abilities that would gain her a win. Ive already discussed all of these points in previous posts. If u wanna find out why storm owns electros ass then browse thru this thread. A win for Storm!!!
electro isnt just able, he is known for frying peoples brains in seconds. Storm has no resistance to it. Sure, she can cause interference to a tele, but whenever he uses the electricity in her against her, she's pretty much done for.
And since when do you get to determine how much energy it would take to keep electro magnetized? You obviously know little about super-magnets. Once he chooses to "activate" it would take NO energy at all to stay in that state. As for him being airborne and getting whipped around, i dont think that would happen. He uses electrical currents, which would either A) remain uneffected by storm when she makes wind, or B) storm manipulates those to create wind... and if electro is already manipulating them, storm ain't gonna effect him through it😉
so, the arguement with him simply turning her into a vegetable still stands. Fight will be over in seconds if her body has all this 'natural electricity' stored up in it.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Ok show me someones argument ive avoided cos i havent at all. I have countered all queries which havent been already addressed at an early stage in the thread otherwise i just say look bk you'll find your answer there. Or something like that. However if i have done it then its unintentional and present me withe question again and i'll gladly answer
here...
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
There was no discussion. You just said you weren't impressed with what he's done in a city environment and that was that. No reply to my comment on water pipes and I-beams.It's also funny that you aren't impressed by flying street signs, which could easily kill Storm, but all over the flying shaft of metal Storm threatened Emma Frost with.
and you keep comparing him to magneto when they are not as similar as you claim they are...
you keep claiming that her brain is practically immune to any attack... she isnt...
and kontraz is right...
"electro isnt just able, he is known for frying peoples brains in seconds. Storm has no resistance to it. Sure, she can cause interference to a tele, but whenever he uses the electricity in her against her, she's pretty much done for."
As a manipulator of such fields she would be able to resist him on a level like she has done with magneto and polaris. At the end of the day psionic energy is closely related to electromagnetic energy as it is after all just brain synaptic energy. That is the very reason mags displays low level psi powers and why he can disrupt telepathic powers by controlling his field. Storm has control over her field. Her power is to psionically manipulate energy patterns and fields which she predominantly uses to create weather. In other dimensions for example it manifests differently. Storm has enough control over her field to resist psionic and electromagnetic attacks and has done so on many occassions in the past. If electro was frying someones brain so easily they certainly werent individuals with any degree of control over electromagnetic energy.
" You obviously know little about super-magnets. Once he chooses to "activate" it would take NO energy at all to stay in that state"
Ok kontraz well how it happens in real life isnt always how it works in comics. Im going by the comics which is what u should be doing and her battle with magneto more specifically in the early days of uncanny xmen when she used her winds against him to suffocate and restrain him. It took mighty effort on his part to remain in one position and this is mags for christs sake. He just had enough juice left to throw collossuss at storm before he or at least the captions said he would pass out.
"He uses electrical currents, which would either A) remain uneffected by storm when she makes wind, or B) storm manipulates those to create wind... and if electro is already manipulating them, storm ain't gonna effect him through it"
If he uses electromagnetic currents to propel himself though the hair and storm turned a hurricane on him like it did with magneto his flight and movement would be severly restricted. I see what you're saying but as i have previously said marvel chooses when and where it should abide by real life physics and thankfully for me and my argument the specific point u made is rendered void because of that. U want proof? Try reading essential xmen.
"There was no discussion. You just said you weren't impressed with what he's done in a city environment and that was that. No reply to my comment on water pipes and I-beams.
It's also funny that you aren't impressed by flying street signs, which could easily kill Storm, but all over the flying shaft of metal Storm threatened Emma Frost with. "
Of course its possible for him to kill her with ionised objects such as the ones you mentioned. Just like its possible for storm to kill him with projectiles which carried on her winds would almost certainly have more destructive power if he got caught up in it. Thats Electros major asset in a battle with storm cos if he just resorted to energy attacks shes far too resistant and could fight him back. If scoobs is to be believed he can store 1million volts in his body. Storms lightning contains far higher voltages. Storm would win an energy battle. If it came to flying debris versus hurricane winds, blizzards, rain basically total atmospheric control is it any wonder why i believe storm could take this?