she is highly resistant to a point plus due to her control over such energies she could fight him as well. She generates greater energies than him as has been proven. Its just her precise control over such energies which she lacks in comparison to electro. Shes precise enought to manipulate her own field to resist psionic and electromagnateic attacks. She can sense and manipulate the electromagnetic fields of robots so as to disrupt or even change programming(Age of A) or cloud sensors(The fury) plus she can manipulate the electrical fields of others to disrupt brain and heart activity.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
she is highly resistant to a point plus due to her control over such energies she could fight him as well. She generates greater energies than him as has been proven. Its just her precise control over such energies which she lacks in comparison to electro. Shes precise enought to manipulate her own field to resist psionic and electromagnateic attacks. She can sense and manipulate the electromagnetic fields of robots so as to disrupt or even change programming(Age of A) or cloud sensors(The fury) plus she can manipulate the electrical fields of others to disrupt brain and heart activity.
firstly, aoa doesnt count unless it was aoa storm, and no they are not the same...
two, the fact that he is so precise is the factor that i believe wins it for him... magneto and polaris arent as precise or as powerful when it comes to shorting out synapses, electro is, the fact that imo he is past that level means he can do it pretty quickly...
Originally posted by stormfront13
yes everything galactic said is true. couldn't storm redirect his electrical charges if he tried to hurt her with them???
no.
"firstly, aoa doesnt count unless it was aoa storm, and no they are not the same"
PR you've resorted to nit-picking. That was just one of the examples i used for storms precise control. Thankfully there are many which is why storm would win. You have ignored my argument that psychic energy is brain synapses. If you are an avid reader of xmen you will know this has been stated a number of times over the years. Did u actually read my last post properly and actually take in the whole point of it? Well obviously not from this latest post of yours. Take this in. People with a great degree of control over electromagnetic energies can resist telepathic and electromagnetic attacks. You keep repeating the fact that electro manipulated the brain synapses of some people who werent electromagnetic energy wielders generators so of course he could take them out with that method just like that. Storm resists telepathic control because brain synapses and psychic energy ARE ONE!! brain synapses are electricity generated by the brain. Storm being able to psionically manipulate energy fields has control over this field. That is why it would be far from easy for electro to manipulate her. Electro has many more skills in that particular area but in this one area they both share the same skill it would be a matter of willpower and sheer power generation. STORM WINS!!!!!
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
"electro isnt just able, he is known for frying peoples brains in seconds. Storm has no resistance to it. Sure, she can cause interference to a tele, but whenever he uses the electricity in her against her, she's pretty much done for."As a manipulator of such fields she would be able to resist him on a level like she has done with magneto and polaris. At the end of the day psionic energy is closely related to electromagnetic energy as it is after all just brain synaptic energy. That is the very reason mags displays low level psi powers and why he can disrupt telepathic powers by controlling his field. Storm has control over her field. Her power is to psionically manipulate energy patterns and fields which she predominantly uses to create weather. In other dimensions for example it manifests differently. Storm has enough control over her field to resist psionic and electromagnetic attacks and has done so on many occassions in the past. If electro was frying someones brain so easily they certainly werent individuals with any degree of control over electromagnetic energy.
" You obviously know little about super-magnets. Once he chooses to "activate" it would take NO energy at all to stay in that state"
Ok kontraz well how it happens in real life isnt always how it works in comics. Im going by the comics which is what u should be doing and her battle with magneto more specifically in the early days of uncanny xmen when she used her winds against him to suffocate and restrain him. It took mighty effort on his part to remain in one position and this is mags for christs sake. He just had enough juice left to throw collossuss at storm before he or at least the captions said he would pass out.
"He uses electrical currents, which would either A) remain uneffected by storm when she makes wind, or B) storm manipulates those to create wind... and if electro is already manipulating them, storm ain't gonna effect him through it"
If he uses electromagnetic currents to propel himself though the hair and storm turned a hurricane on him like it did with magneto his flight and movement would be severly restricted. I see what you're saying but as i have previously said marvel chooses when and where it should abide by real life physics and thankfully for me and my argument the specific point u made is rendered void because of that. U want proof? Try reading essential xmen.
yes, as you said, marvel chooses when and where to let 'real physics' apply. And seeing as this battle has not taken place in the marvel universe, we dont know what they would decide to do, so i'm saying that actual physics would apply in terms of electro.
and since when do electromagnetivity and psionic energy have anything in common? Sure, storm might be able to build a "shield" out of lightning around her brain or some other bs like that, which helps her fend of psychics, but it will do dick to help her against someone who can use the same lightning inside her skull to fry her brains into mush.
and you keep saying that she will be able to resist electro's weild of eletricity. I just dont see it happening. Electro is able to easily weild voltage far exceeding 1 million... before his "upgrade". And if that was easy for him before, then storm has no chance of trying to block him from frying her from the inside out.
Originally posted by GalacticStormObviously it's a matter of overcoming the elements for the former and battle of wills for the latter. Whether it's a tanker truck or a fork, it doesn't matter. Both can make the kill so what they can throw doesn't matter at all.
Of course its possible for him to kill her with ionised objects such as the ones you mentioned. Just like its possible for storm to kill him with projectiles which carried on her winds would almost certainly have more destructive power if he got caught up in it. Thats Electros major asset in a battle with storm cos if he just resorted to energy attacks shes far too resistant and could fight him back.
And as for her resistance, it's just that. Resist that, resist this, it's not immunity. Of course, knowing you two, or... well, just the one since I don't think Stormfront has added anything to a Storm debate since you've joined, an agreement over whether Electro is strong enough to affect Storm will never be made.
Still, it makes sense that the electric field she uses to resist telapthy would only make Electro manipulating her brain's currents easier. Like trying to protect your castle from frogs with a moat.
And for the love of grodd, use spacing. It's hard to read 5X6 solid blocks of text.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
"firstly, aoa doesnt count unless it was aoa storm, and no they are not the same"PR you've resorted to nit-picking. That was just one of the examples i used for storms precise control. Thankfully there are many which is why storm would win. You have ignored my argument that psychic energy is brain synapses. If you are an avid reader of xmen you will know this has been stated a number of times over the years. Did u actually read my last post properly and actually take in the whole point of it? Well obviously not from this latest post of yours. Take this in. People with a great degree of control over electromagnetic energies can resist telepathic and electromagnetic attacks. You keep repeating the fact that electro manipulated the brain synapses of some people who werent electromagnetic energy wielders generators so of course he could take them out with that method just like that. Storm resists telepathic control because brain synapses and psychic energy ARE ONE!! brain synapses are electricity generated by the brain. Storm being able to psionically manipulate energy fields has control over this field. That is why it would be far from easy for electro to manipulate her. Electro has many more skills in that particular area but in this one area they both share the same skill it would be a matter of willpower and sheer power generation. STORM WINS!!!!!
name ONE TIME storm has manipulated psionic feilds. I have yet to see her read someones mind, take control of their body, implant images, or even do some TK. she can manipulate electricty to an extent. She can create barriers for psychics. Oh well. Electro can easily just take whatever electromagnetism storm is trying to weild and use it against her with relative ease. As, i believe you stated some-odd pages ago, electro is more powerful than storm when it comes to electricity and electromagnetivity (two VERY different things, btw), but storm has many "other advantages". Well, if he is stronger than her in those two regards, he can fry her brain, plain and simple.
yes she does and if you would read his posts you would know. she also affects the fields it takes to do that and she exceeded in resisting polaris, and even magneto. she can resist long enough to beat him. and why can't she just create a big sandstorm tornado type thing around and literally tear him up but not enough to kill him?? she can do this, defend against anything he can throw at her and beat him.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Obviously it's a matter of overcoming the elements for the former and battle of wills for the latter. Whether it's a tanker truck or a fork, it doesn't matter. Both can make the kill so what they can throw doesn't matter at all.And as for her resistance, it's just that. Resist that, resist this, it's not immunity. Of course, knowing you two, or... well, just the one since I don't think Stormfront has added anything to a Storm debate since you've joined, an agreement over whether Electro is strong enough to affect Storm will never be made.
Still, it makes sense that the electric field she uses to resist telapthy would only make Electro manipulating her brain's currents easier. Like trying to protect your castle from frogs with a moat.
And for the love of grodd, use spacing. It's hard to read 5X6 solid blocks of text.
exactly what i'm saying. Electro can draw and drain energy from any electrical source, as well. If storm is full of lightning, he can just drain all of it from her (including her brain sheild) and use it to amp his own power to fry her brain all the faster 😉
stormfront... have YOU been reading the posts... if she tries to "counter his attack" of frying her brain by putting up an electrical field to guard it, its like trying to stop a fire from spreading by blowtorching it... sure, it might seem like a good idea at the time, but right after you do it, you immediately think "oh.... F*ck me.."
so... she has an electro-magnetic field constantly around her brain... i can buy that.... electro can just use either the field itself to warp her mind, or he can use the electrical pulses from the neurons in her brain (something mags and polaris COULDNT do) to fry her brain... your pick, cuz she's gettin one of the two 😉
"yes, as you said, marvel chooses when and where to let 'real physics' apply. And seeing as this battle has not taken place in the marvel universe, we dont know what they would decide to do, so i'm saying that actual physics would apply in terms of electro."
All the rules of marvel comics and their way of interpreting things applies. You cant suddenly choose to not make it so just so you can win a debate. My friend it doesnt work like that in the grown up world.
"and since when do electromagnetivity and psionic energy have anything in common? Sure, storm might be able to build a "shield" out of lightning around her brain or some other bs like that, which helps her fend of psychics, but it will do dick to help her against someone who can use the same lightning inside her skull to fry her brains into mush."
For crying out loud electromagnetivity and psionic energy have always been related and thats been made very clear in marvel comics since the very beginning of the xmen. Psychic energy is brain synapses. Brain synapses is electric energy. Storm , magneto, polaris and electro are electromagnetic energy wielders and they all have a natural field which makes it difficult for psis to probe their minds.
U want examples? Ok. Why is the operating range of Xaviers powers now dramatically less nowadays than when he was 1st starting the xmen? Because Mags made it that way by manipulating the earths electromagnetic field to limit his greatest enemies efficiency as opposition. Magneto master magnetism also has limited psychic powers why? Nothing to do with the fact that the nature of his energies are electromagnetic and he is arguably the best on the planet at manipulating such energies. It is also for this reason that xavier finds it so hard to probe magnetos mind. Who elses mind do psychics find incredibly hard to probe? Polaris and storms. Why? Possibly cos of the electromagnetic nature of their powers. I could go on and on but if u want proof pick up a copy of essential xmen one read the in-depth bio on xavier and it will tell you about the link between the two energies.
"and you keep saying that she will be able to resist electro's weild of eletricity. I just dont see it happening. Electro is able to easily weild voltage far exceeding 1 million... before his "upgrade". And if that was easy for him before, then storm has no chance of trying to block him from frying her from the inside out."
Out of every1 its you who i dont believe has read this whole thread but just lazily jumped in at the middle. Storm wields and generates far higher voltages than electro. Electros upgrade as it were has less to do with an increases in the power he can generate but more to with him being taught to use what powers he has properly and him learning extra skills. Its sheer speculation that electro can generate significantly more energy and that has no place here. Especially when i and the people voting for storm are using comic fact to base our argument upon.
Electro can generate and store within his body just 1million volts of electricity. If you visit the link i posted a few pages back you will see that your average naturally occurring lightning bolts voltage ranges from 10 MILLION TO 120 MILLION VOLTS. NO COMPARISON. Storm is adept at controlling her lightning and it courses through her body Electro aint frying sh*t.
"it's a matter of overcoming the elements for the former and battle of wills for the latter. Whether it's a tanker truck or a fork, it doesn't matter. Both can make the kill so what they can throw doesn't matter at all."
Obviously so whats your point.
"Still, it makes sense that the electric field she uses to resist telapthy would only make Electro manipulating her brain's currents easier."
No it wouldnt. It would come down to sheer willpower and just sheer power. They both share the ability to manipulate the brains electrical field. Electro has many other manipulating abilities that she doesnt but please try and understand my point. When it comes to him manipulating storms field it will be down to sheer willpower that plus sheer power and its already been proven storm wins in that area
I love how people think personal insults make their point stronger instead of wrecking their credibility.
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Originally posted by GalacticStormOh, really? Have they fought in the comics? I would like proof that Storm's power of electricity is greater than Electros, proof other than your word.
When it comes to him manipulating storms field it will be down to sheer willpower that plus sheer power and its already been proven storm wins in that area