Spiderman vs. Deathstoke

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Originally posted by long pig

He's smarter and carries weapons that can one hit kill spiderman.
Slade, at most, gets webbed up.

And then his head is crushed by a Spidey punch. 🙂He revives hours later, but the fight is already over. His "one hit" weapons are useless if they don't "hit once". Once Slade gets webbed he might as well call it a night.

Originally posted by long pig
He's smarter and carries weapons that can one hit kill spiderman. Spiderman never fights anyone who is both smarter and physically capable. It's always dumb strong guys, or dumb geniuses with little skill at using their weapons.

Slade has trouble with Batman and Nightwing.

Spider-Man >>>> Batman / Nightwing.

Spiderman has trouble with Vulture and the Black Cat.

Slade>>>>>>>>>>>>>Vulture / Black Cat.

See? I can make stupid statements, too! Weeeeeee!!!

The fact is, Slade outclasses Spider-man in the fields that count the most. Skill, intelligence, experience & weaponry.

Originally posted by long pig
Spiderman has trouble with Vulture and the Black Cat.

Slade>>>>>>>>>>>>>Vulture / Black Cat.

See? I can make stupid statements, too! Weeeeeee!!!

The fact is, Slade outclasses Spider-man in the fields that count the most. Skill, intelligence, experience & weaponry.

I acknowledge that "Slade has trouble w/Batman" really doesn't matter because of PIS. Batman logically would get his a$$ handed to him quite easily by Slade every time they fought. Spidey's outclassed in those exact same fields by Hobgoblin(the mercenary MaCendale) also. Spidey kicks his @$$ more often than not. Slade's a lil' better than HG, but he's still gonna lose to Spidey more often than not. Spidey wouldn't kill him because of the immortality, but 1 Spidey punch should render him KOed or helpless. Anything Spidey punches full out will either come off, collapse, or explode.

The fact is that DS can keep his cool unlike most of Spidey enemies. He is undoubtedly smarter. He is just about as strong. He as fast if not faster. He's much more skilled. He won't hold back at all. He is vastly more experienced. And he knows how to take down superhumans.

He's been punched by 50 tonners more times than I can count and he didn't explode or even get K.O'd.

The punch from WW took him out, but it'd take anyone out.

If Spidey ever would get close enough to punch Slade, he's getting shot. Not that Slade couldn't handle a few punches from spidey. Hell, Cyborg is as strong if not stronger than Spidey and Slade has taken direct punches and ended up out fighting Cyborg and winning.

At most, Slade is webbed against a wall and Spiderman is bleeding to death with a few extra holes in his head.

Slade has, lots of really good guns...

Yes he does. Slade is without a doubt one of the best. Don't be crazy though. Spidey is taking the trophy in all physical qualities, but healing. Spidey's probably faster w/out the precog. With it, there's no question he's faster. Slade isn't near Spidey as far as strength goes. I've seen Slade do some cool speed feats, but I've not seen him do many Festivus Feats of Strength yet. Any scans to prove me wrong?

Originally posted by long pig
He's been punched by 50 tonners more times than I can count and he didn't explode or even get K.O'd.

The punch from WW took him out, but it'd take anyone out.

If Spidey ever would get close enough to punch Slade, he's getting shot. Not that Slade couldn't handle a few punches from spidey. Hell, Cyborg is as strong if not stronger than Spidey and Slade has taken direct punches and ended up out fighting Cyborg and winning.

I doubt they were punching anywhere near as hard as they can, a 50 ton punch is probably better than Batman swinging a rifle🙂.

Originally posted by brainchild81
I doubt they were punching anywhere near as hard as they can, a 50 ton punch is probably better than Batman swinging a rifle🙂.

You underestimate Batman's rifle swinging capabilities...

😆

😆I guess so.

But batman has h2h with Superman and has fought Darkseid, tripped the Flash and taken punches from WW.

Batman, no matter who he is fighting, will put up a fight amazingly more so than he should. He's a shitty character that way, D.C is up his ass like a tube worm.

But, that goes along with PIS...same when, in the same comic, Batman was said to be able to hit a target and Slade couldn't. Which is the most bullshit thing ever.

Written the way he is in D.C, Batman would take Spiderman most of the time.

Originally posted by long pig
But batman has h2h with Superman and has fought Darkseid, tripped the Flash and taken punches from WW.

Batman, no matter who he is fighting, will put up a fight amazingly more so than he should. He's a shitty character that way, D.C is up his ass like a tube worm.

But, that goes along with PIS...same when, in the same comic, Batman was said to be able to hit a target and Slade couldn't. Which is the most bullshit thing ever.

Written the way he is in D.C, Batman would take Spiderman most of the time.

Deathstroke didn't say he couldn't make the shot, he said, verbatim,

"You're too late! The target's drifted out of effective range! It's an impossible shot even for a pro!"

I think he meant that Batman couldn't make it...

Originally posted by long pig
But batman has h2h with Superman and has fought Darkseid, tripped the Flash and taken punches from WW.

Batman, no matter who he is fighting, will put up a fight amazingly more so than he should. He's a shitty character that way, D.C is up his ass like a tube worm.

But, that goes along with PIS...same when, in the same comic, Batman was said to be able to hit a target and Slade couldn't. Which is the most bullshit thing ever.

Written the way he is in D.C, Batman would take Spiderman most of the time.

I see what you're saying. Batman is DCs #1 icon and they do d**keat him quite often. Azbat did f**k Bats up a while back so badly he had to save his life afterwards though(I think Slade'd beat the s**t outta Az). It depends on the writer. Batman's a pretty great character when the right people write him.

They have to jack him up outside of his own comics so that he can, you know, do stuff.

In his own comics he doesn't often break these barriers.

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
They have to jack him up outside of his own comics so that he can, you know, do stuff.
That's a damn good quote right there. More people should realize this. They've done a good deal of fanboy service w/Batman, but people eat it up so why stop?

Originally posted by brainchild81
I acknowledge that "Slade has trouble w/Batman" really doesn't matter because of PIS. Batman logically would get his a$$ handed to him quite easily by Slade every time they fought. Spidey's outclassed in those exact same fields by Hobgoblin(the mercenary MaCendale) also. Spidey kicks his @$$ more often than not. Slade's a lil' better than HG, but he's still gonna lose to Spidey more often than not. Spidey wouldn't kill him because of the immortality, but 1 Spidey punch should render him KOed or helpless. Anything Spidey punches full out will either come off, collapse, or explode.

Well spiderman, batman have all fallen under the PIS arguement. But which character can any of us think of that has not been in some kind of PIS OR CIS senario. It is a comic world......

Originally posted by Superherovandal
The fact is that DS can keep his cool unlike most of Spidey enemies.

Puma, Hobgoblin, Green Goblin, Venom in his own way, Black Tarantula, Kingpin, Morlun, Lizard, Doc Ock, Tombstone... These guys have a habit of keeping their cool while fighting Spider-Man.

He is undoubtedly smarter.

Depends what you mean with smarter ? Streetwise smarter ? Bookwise smarter ? Fighting wise smarter ?

Don't forget Spider-Man is considered a genius and a very quick thinker while fighting.

So maybe Deathstroke is a bit smarter, maybe, but not as much as you make it seem.

He is just about as strong.

Huh ? Spider-Man is at least several times stronger.
He as fast if not faster.

Absolutely NOT.
He's much more skilled.

He has learnt more martial arts stuff and such. True. But Spider-Man created his own martial art which has held him alive for many years.
He won't hold back at all.

So won't Spider-Man. Bloodlust is on according to the KMC rules.
He is vastly more experienced.

My ass. Spider-Man has been kicking the living crap out of mutants and heroes and villains and monsters and robots for more than 40 years now, and even I don't have a clue how many battles he has fought.
And he knows how to take down superhumans.

So ? So does Spider-Man.

How strong is Slade?

10 times the average strength of a human. avergae him penches maby 200 pounds.
2000 should be his max. but people have been saying it 4 tons which makes no sense seeing how he only 10 times stronger then the average human. he 10 times a normal human in every area.