Spiderman vs. Deathstoke

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brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by long pig
Wait...Slade isn't three times stronger than Spiderman. But the rest is correct.
Very funny LP. You know who I was really talking about.

Originally posted by long pig
Slade is not only superior in healing, he's superior in resilience. Partly because of his armor and party because of his meta stats.
I already said Slade was more resilient. Healing and resilience are kind of the same thing.
Anybody got pics of slade picking up anything heavy? How strong do you think he is LP?

long pig Restricted

I don't have any pics, no. I've seen him flip a large sized truck and kick through concrete walls. Most bios say 3-4 tons, I agree.

It fluctuates, though. In his series, while depowered, he was probably around 1ton-1 1/2 ton. Presuming he's back to pre-mini series stats, he's 3-4 ton.

brainchild81 Privateer

So then he's nowhere near Spidey's strength. It can't be said that Spidey's not stronger by much because he is. 6 or 7 tons stronger even before the upgrades. 11 or 12 afterwards. Possibly 5 times stronger. That's a LOT stronger. To me the guy who starts moving before the punch is even thrown is a bit more likely to be faster. Precog enhanced reflexes ladies and gentlemen.

long pig Restricted

He's not so strong that it'll make a difference against someone who is so highly skilled as Slade.
Spiderman has a hard time with normal humans who are highly skilled, which isn't PIS because anyone who is as skilled as Batman/Slade can handle their own in a fight with a 10 tonner with 0 training in any real martial arts.

Skill makes up 10 fold over Spiderman's slightly superior strength. Skill AND insane weaponry make up for it 50 fold. Skill AND insane weaponry AND healing make up for it 100 fold.

Spiderman's strength is basically moot, and most likely will be used against him.

To me the guy who starts moving before the punch is even thrown is a bit more likely to be faster. Precog enhanced reflexes ladies and gentlemen.

To me, a guy who can comprehend and account for nearly- any outcome in a fight- in his head- instantly can null that right out.

Then we start adding on the weapons, which is Spiderman's death nail.

I still say double K.O, except Slade will heal and Spiderman will be dead.

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by long pig
He's not so strong that it'll make a difference against someone who is so highly skilled as Slade.
Spiderman has a hard time with normal humans who are highly skilled, which isn't PIS because anyone who is as skilled as Batman/Slade can handle their own in a fight with a 10 tonner with 0 training in any real martial arts.
Hold on now. It's 15 and if it was just 15 tons it wouldn't be PIS. It's the strength, superior speed, agility, balance, webbing and precog that tips the scales in Spidey's favor. For all Batman's skill, his wrist lock didn't even hurt Spidey because of his superior flexibility. Spidey threw him away because he's a nice guy. He could just as easily have broke Batman's hand or tore his f**king arm off or punched a hole through his face. Spidey goes easy on these Martial artists the same way he goes easy on almost everybody. He won't be doing that here. He's swinging to kill. Spidey didn't go to Karate school, but he's been punching and kicking metahumans in the face and KOing them since before he could vote. He's wrestled before. He's done all kinds of wicked moves before so lets not pretend Spidey's no good in a fight. Batman's more skilled in the martial arts than Slade too, but his victory over Slade is pure PIS because Slade is skilled and he simply outclasses Batman physically.

Originally posted by long pig
Skill makes up 10 fold over Spiderman's slightly superior strength. Skill AND insane weaponry make up for it 50 fold. Skill AND insane weaponry AND healing make up for it 100 fold.

Spiderman's strength is basically moot, and most likely will be used against him.

To me, a guy who can comprehend and account for nearly- any outcome in a fight- in his head- instantly can null that right out.

Then we start adding on the weapons, which is Spiderman's death nail.

I still say double K.O, except Slade will heal and Spiderman will be dead.

Usually whenever Spidey fights anybody w/weapons they have superior weaponry, so that's not gonna mean much to Spidey. See what happened to that Tracer guy when Spidey was all tired and pissed off? Really good guessing is nothing compared to true precog. I'm not taking anything away from Slade, and I think w/prep he'd have this. Without it though, he's just another guy in jail because of Spider-Man.

superman302 Senior Member

good fight, If they met out in an ally without and just started duking it out spidey would most likely win, but if someone hired deathstroke to take spidey out deathstroke would win this fight everytime.

Warmonger Senior Member
Originally posted by brainchild81
😆 That's not nice. Any feats of strength pics for Slade? This is where it really starts to break down. Flash could easily speed blitz Slade and Spidey @ the same time if he wanted to, don't be crazy. Spidey is more resilient than a normal human. He's got a mini healing factor and he's much more durable than a regular person. Notice how he can put holes in steel w/out breaking his hands. That's not due to technique. That's brute strength and durability. DD and Elektra hitting Spidey is an example of a low showing as is Bats flat out KOing Slade w/a rifle to the head or being tagged by Nightwing. Slade takes punches from heavy hitters who ain't punching as hard as they can. Spidey punches Slade in the face full on one time, Slade spends that night in the morgue and wakes up w/a headache. Faster? Yes. At least 3 times Stronger? Yes Faster? Yes. Better Reflexes? Yes. More durable? Yes. More resilient? No. Slade's healing is superior, not his durability. There's a difference guys.

Sigh I don't mean never speed Blitz Slade just that Slade has always been fast enough and smart enough to prevent hismelf from being speedblitzed by Flash. Except for that one time that he ran into wally after taking down Aquman and Hal jordan. Flash pretty much beat the piss out of him, ven though he gto him back for it later.

Slade is about a 4-5 ton tops. Spiderman is clsoer to 20 huge strentgh difference.

Spiderman can't be that durable cause apperantly punchs from normal guys seem to affect him as much as some of the hits from his super powered foes. So in that regard him and Slade are the same and their durability is dictated by the story. Superboy hit Slade in the back of the head, into the ground so hard that the damn pavment shattered. Whether or not he was hitting as hard as he could but he is a great deal stronger than spiderman and Slade stood back up. At which point Cassie hits him with her lighting, (which ther is no reason to belive she pulled her punch as she didn't even know she could do it she jsut wanted to hurt him and the lasso did it) and Slade was still concious so I think its afe to say that Slade is a great deal tougher than Spiderman can hope to K.O in one punch.

Also Batman didn't knco Slade out he hit him through a skylight we don't even know if he was unconcious.

Slade: Stronger, No, Faster: bout the same, better reflexes: bout the same.

superman302 Senior Member

when they first fought slade could of killed batman but he just left him

the Darkone Senior Member

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Tha C-Master Zitz! Rash! Pimple!

Deathstroke used to be wanked pretty heavily in 05.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Initial gut reaction... Slade tools Spiderman.

The Nuul Senior Member

Uh ah....Parker has the precon that senses danger and causes him to respond to danger much faster than Slade.

Parker 10/10

Tha C-Master Zitz! Rash! Pimple!

I don't think it is a stomp either way. DS seems like Gamora on the boards. Some make it seem like he can take 2 wins from Flash out of ten, others make it seem like he loses to Capt. America. 😬

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by The Nuul
Uh ah....Parker has the precon that senses danger and causes him to respond to danger much faster than Slade.

Parker 10/10


Their reflexes are about even. Slade might even be a little faster.

Has Spider-Man ever tagged Quicksilver?

Tha C-Master Zitz! Rash! Pimple!

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Their reflexes are about even. Slade might even be a little faster.

Has Spider-Man ever tagged Quicksilver?

I don't think Slade is faster in pure movement, reflexes are probably rather close.

I think he has.

The Nuul Senior Member

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Their reflexes are about even. Slade might even be a little faster.

Has Spider-Man ever tagged Quicksilver?

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The Nuul Senior Member
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I don't think it is a stomp either way. DS seems like Gamora on the boards. Some make it seem like he can take 2 wins from Flash out of ten, others make it seem like he loses to Capt. America. 😬

With PIS he can take a few from Flash.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I don't think Slade is faster in pure movement, reflexes are probably rather close.

I think he has.


Raw reflexes probably.

I think Slade's much greater skill compensates for Spidey's spidey sense in a h/h scrap.

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Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I don't think Slade is faster in pure movement, reflexes are probably rather close.

I think he has.


and yet you don't think Capt's are closes who pretty much a minor image of Slade physically.