Star Wars, because of these three things.
1. Force
2. Death Star
3. Imperial Fleet
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Star Trek Would Loose because of these three things
1. The Federation Ship Design {They aren't designed to fight, that well}
2. The Romulan Klingon Conflict
3. {What are the odds of the borg fighting with all of those spices???}
Originally posted by Darth Elmo
Star Wars, because of these three things.1. Force
2. Death Star
3. Imperial Fleet
_________________________Star Trek Would Loose because of these three things
1. The Federation Ship Design {They aren't designed to fight, that well}
2. The Romulan Klingon Conflict
3. {What are the odds of the borg fighting with all of those spices???}
Gaad... I just cant stay away...
See now your being hypothetical... so now I can say... how do you know that the Empire will fight with the Rebel Alliance... How do we know that the Empire wont join sides with the Romulans and the Dominion and take on the Federation, Klingon Empire, and the Rebel Alliance...
And with that said, I can surely say that the Federation and the Rebel Alliance / New Republic would not go to war. They would eventually establish communications and make peace, share technology and make a huge technological ship that would rule all...
You know the more we talk about this the more I see such a drastic difference between the two universes and the more I really believe that a comparison like this is really just futile.
Janus you are right... The SW universe is like the size of our universe and the ST universe is like the size of our solar system. So you are right... Universe against universe SW would win just on sheer size. It would be like all billion people of China storming the US... or actually just Texas.
I dont believe however that technology wise ST is inferiour.
Has anyone seen the CGI video that has ST, SW, Babylon 5, and Battlestar Galactica in this massive orgy of battle. Its good VS bad... not SW vs ST... Now that is a battle worth watching.
That was a sweet picture Janus....lol.....I like both of them but I have to stay on Star Wars side if I can...lol....But I do have to say the art of firing while cloaked(ST) turns the tables a bit....I remember from the I think it was rebel alliance game....The empire had a cloak system but they could not fire while cloaked?....Im trying hard to find reasons for ST to stand a chance without Q but its hard...lol...defending the underdog here...so what is the deal with the Empires cloak? was there ever in any of the comics any improvement or did they just abandon cloaking after that game?...cause if they gave up how can they match ST they cannot shoot something they cant lock on or see..ST would outfit all ships with this technology no peace treatys to prevent it......ALL the pilots would have to be jedi.....there arent that many......so till someone tells me SW has the cloaking going on score one for ST? Or wait a jedi might capture a cloaking ship that can fire while cloaked then adapt SW ships to using that technology....And I was thinking too what if a jedi or sith tried to do a mind trick on a borg...then the whole collective would adapt and learn to use the force thats scary a bunch of force using borg....they could sure use some force assisted speed when moving around...lol
LOL... I never thought about that though... how would the force work on the collective... IN FACT... and I have to type this in caps...
IF THE YUSHONG VONG (SP) CAN NOT BE AFFECTED BY THE FORCE BECAUSE THEY ARE FROM ANOTHER GALAXY THEN WHY WOULD THE STAR TREK UNIVERSE BE AFFECTED BY THE FORCE? Logic would dictate that if the force does not affect beings from outside the SW galaxy like the Yushong Vong then why would it have any affect on the ST universe...
SOOOOOOO.... I think we can eliminate the Force as an effective weapon... Just like the Vong, the Jedi / Sith would not be able to sense the cloaked ST ships... Humm....
But the the borg can combine the cubes to be superhuge....a few of those could take out the deathstar....and there is only one deathstar at a time? yes no?thousands maybe millions of cubes......tables are starting to turn on SW again damn it...gotta think...as now I can defend SW since they are becoming underdog
Say DumbleDore started this thread I say its time he declared a winner!
Either that or we could ask Nefarus to write us a short story showing how they sent jabba through the rift with a sparkler hanging out his ass to pass gas and blow up the entire ST universe....but hey wait a minute Earth is in the Star Trek universe......that might not be so cool....not unless we could get Earth through the rift first and be in the SW universe...I could deal with that
Originally posted by TRSundown
LOL... I never thought about that though... how would the force work on the collective... IN FACT... and I have to type this in caps...IF THE YUSHONG VONG (SP) CAN NOT BE AFFECTED BY THE FORCE BECAUSE THEY ARE FROM ANOTHER GALAXY THEN WHY WOULD THE STAR TREK UNIVERSE BE AFFECTED BY THE FORCE? Logic would dictate that if the force does not affect beings from outside the SW galaxy like the Yushong Vong then why would it have any affect on the ST universe...
SOOOOOOO.... I think we can eliminate the Force as an effective weapon... Just like the Vong, the Jedi / Sith would not be able to sense the cloaked ST ships... Humm....
The Vong were a shitty add-on the SW universe, since they have organic superiority which is sci fi hogwash. And the Force exists in all living things by defination and around them. The peoples of the SW universe would be a source to draw on all by themselves. If a Jedi can use the Force on something like a lifeless rock or a droid, they can use it to effectively maim an ST character.
Now, I dislike the Vong for numerous reason. One is that they can't be affected by the Force. This serves only to make them a threat, not because it makes sense. Also, organic technology just blows. If the Death Star can blow a planet up, and a Stardestroyer can glass one by itself, the Vong's ships shouldn't have a damn chance, period. Unless they import their own physics too. Seriously, the Vong undermine so much I actually am surprised they haven't been overturned even as quasi-canon.
Next, St isn't technologically more advanced. They're inferior. Why? It's simple- technology that is thousands of years in the making in regards to space travel versus what? Half a millenia tops? Time is against ST. Their ships are not very combat oriented, and ST has shit for ground troops. If it came to boarding parties, ST would be pwned so bad it would make the reruns wince in pain.
And as for not being able to sense cloaked enemies, there are ways around that. A blanketed shield generator like the kind over Nal Hutta could effectively keep any cloaked enemies at bay, and unconventional things like chaff launchers could scramble the ST ships' sensors. Add on to the fact that SW ships in general are larger and more numerous than St ships, have more firepower and a greater firing range and rate, and it's checkmate. No getting around it. ST loses any conventional battle, unless one falls on the Trekkie logic of Q wins all..