All Of Star Trek Vs All Of Star Wars

Originally posted by TRSundown
I know that Force users rock... I actually like SW better than ST... but I think everyone is forgetting all the different aliens in the ST universe... Forget Q cause like I said before... "snap" your dead. I cant remember how many times the Enterprise, DS9, or Voyager encountered super human beings with super powers... How about the Prophets, the Paw Wraths...

I just cant see how it would be such a cut and dry victory for the SW universe. Sure... Maybe SW would win in the long run but it would be one hell of a fight. And thats a big maybe.

Well like you said Q is to powerful and could just snap his fingers and it would be over...

The rest ST has to offer however just can not throw stars at their enemy's, not to mention that they don't have a weapon that can blow up capitol ships easily nor destroy planets with just one shot.

Okay... I keep hearing this but I have no idea what you guys are talking about... Who can throw stars?

And yes the ST universe does have ships that can destroy capital ships and planets... ST TOS the Planted Eater or Killer... Thats just one example. And like I said before... the Genesis Torpedo = Planet and System killer... and how about the missile that is used to destroy a sun in Star Trek Generations.

Naga Sadow for one...

So basically you have ships that can do the same thing as the SW Jedi and Sith can? And you have some SW weapons that can do the same thing Jedi and Sith can do... I'm still going to go with SW

Just thought of something that I would like to add....

In ROTJ a small, tiny little A-Wing crashed and took out an entire SUPER Star Destroyer. If thats all it takes... thats not saying much for SW technology.

Just a thought.

Jeeez...that was after they lost their deflector shield after a LOT of sustained fighting. Again...Sith Lords like Naga Sadow throw stars. In the Jedi Academy trilogy, Luke and like 7 other jedi used the force to push an ENTIRE IMPERIAL FLEET out of the star system where Yavin 4 is. So you can talk technology all day, all the tech of the ST universe can't do a g**d*** thing to Jedi or Sith. Its just not gonna happen. SO the Jedi/Sith COMBINED with the military might of the SWU is a serious fight. I agree, it would be a helluva fight, but ST can't handle sustained fighting because they just don't have the numbers that SW does. and they don't have a thing to handle Jedi/Sith/lightsabers/the force except Q. Or the Yuzhaan Vong for that matter, who, again, are all organic and their organic tech is designed to destroy technology. I still haven't heard your answer for them. The SWU BARELY got out of that one alive so how the hell is ST gonna handle them? their weapons go right through shields, they've harnesed a black hole like power to suck anything blasted at them into some sort of void so they don't take damage. They'd own ST on their own.

I thought the SW vs LOTR thread was a bad idea . . .
I think this is a good idea, we can take the piss out of Star Trek!

All of the ST movies I've seen are rubbish and lacking in imagination. The 60's series had nostalga but lacked, umm . . . everything else.
The characters in ST are not paricuarly deep. ST also lacks that fantastical quality that SW has, such as Jedi etc.

Originally posted by exanda kane
I thought the SW vs LOTR thread was a bad idea . . .
I think this is a good idea, we can take the piss out of Star Trek!

All of the ST movies I've seen are rubbish and lacking in imagination. The 60's series had nostalga but lacked, umm . . . everything else.
The characters in ST are not paricuarly deep. ST also lacks that fantastical quality that SW has, such as Jedi etc.

Okay... you want to talk about lack of imagination... how about Lucas... all he did was make a Sci-Fi version of LOTR. Where is the originality in that.

Besides... we are not talking about how good the movies are, or the acting, or nostalga...

And what are you talking about the characters in ST are not very deep? Have you even watched ST... but anyways...

you can take the piss out of ST... just catch it in a cup as they wizz all over you. j/k

This debate is about as futile as the Kobyashi Maru.

Originally posted by TRSundown
Just thought of something that I would like to add....

In ROTJ a small, tiny little A-Wing crashed and took out an entire SUPER Star Destroyer. If thats all it takes... thats not saying much for SW technology.

Just a thought.

The forward shields were brought down, which made the bridge vunerable, and hence the A-wing slammed into the bridge and the whole thing crashed and burned like "Enterprise's" ratings.

Originally posted by TRSundown
Okay... you want to talk about lack of imagination... how about Lucas... all he did was make a Sci-Fi version of LOTR. Where is the originality in that.

Besides... we are not talking about how good the movies are, or the acting, or nostalga...

And what are you talking about the characters in ST are not very deep? Have you even watched ST... but anyways...

you can take the piss out of ST... just catch it in a cup as they wizz all over you. j/k

This debate is about as futile as the Kobyashi Maru.

ST characters can only be so deep after about a thousand episidoes. Then, after they've raised the dead eighty times, gone back in time or forward ninety times, had a relationship with every senior officer of the opposite sex and sometimes of no sex a hundred times, and never come any closer to actually discovering or conquering anything, the characters tend to lose their shape and persona.

At least there is physical as well as emotional changes and development in the SW series.

STAR TREK F*CKING SUCKS, THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO END THIS LAME AS$ THREAD.

💃

Sooo once the shields are down it would take a single photon or quantum torpedo to take down a SUPER star destroyer... Hummm....

Ahh this has gotten way beyond the dumb point. Dont know why I keep bothering.

Hey Q... Snap your fingers would ya!...
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SNAP!

Star Trek = Space Soap Opera.

Star Wars = Science Fantasy Epic.

Star Wars wins.

Q snap ur fingers, wuld ya?

ok....-snaps-....palpatine appears behind him and bakes him....lightning style.

good trick.

Originally posted by TRSundown
Sooo once the shields are down it would take a single photon or quantum torpedo to take down a SUPER star destroyer... Hummm....

Ahh this has gotten way beyond the dumb point. Dont know why I keep bothering.

I guess our dear friend missed this thread....
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f86/t335035.html
and this one
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f86/t335026.html
and this
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f86/t333671.html
and this
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f86/t333972.html
and the zinger:
www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/FiveMinutes.html

Oh, and my take on Q?

Q vs. Palpatine!

Q appears in the Supreme Chancellor's office. Palpatine brandishes a weapon and brushes the ice off a cold six-pack of whup-ass, when suddenly the Q continuum appear in the same room also, declaring that John DeLancie's ego now eclipses the sun and once again must be stripped of all powers until he has learned humility.
Q is buck naked and looking for cover. Palpatine shatters the window, Force-pushes Q outside and ends up as street pizza somewhere on level 12B of Coruscants' basement floor. Owned! 💃

Originally posted by jedi2187
I guess our dear friend missed this thread....
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f86/t335035.html
and this one
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f86/t335026.html
and this
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f86/t333671.html
and this
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f86/t333972.html
and the zinger:
www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/FiveMinutes.html

Oh, and my take on Q?

[b]Q vs. Palpatine!

Q appears in the Supreme Chancellor's office. Palpatine brandishes a weapon and brushes the ice off a cold six-pack of whup-ass, when suddenly the Q continuum appear in the same room also, declaring that John DeLancie's ego now eclipses the sun and once again must be stripped of all powers until he has learned humility.
Q is buck naked and looking for cover. Palpatine shatters the window, Force-pushes Q outside and ends up as street pizza somewhere on level 12B of Coruscants' basement floor. Owned! 💃 [/B]

Kick ass post man! lmfao!

lmao

I've been reading this whole site. ST takes a beating and a half. Man, they suck.

Originally posted by TRSundown
Okay... you want to talk about lack of imagination... how about Lucas... all he did was make a Sci-Fi version of LOTR. Where is the originality in that.

Besides... we are not talking about how good the movies are, or the acting, or nostalga...

And what are you talking about the characters in ST are not very deep? Have you even watched ST... but anyways...

you can take the piss out of ST... just catch it in a cup as they wizz all over you. j/k

This debate is about as futile as the Kobyashi Maru.

[cracks knuckles and lines up cans of Whoop Ass to crack open]
Dude, you don't even know what you're talking about. All TOLKIEN did was make a myth like any other old myth, he researched mythology (mainly the Bible) and created a myth for England...something he felt British Culture was sorely lacking in. He then used these building blocks and themes, which run through ALL mythology and created the LOTR. Which is awesome, this isn't a knock to them. Lucas then did the same thing, but based his stuff more on WWII, The Roman Empire, and Joseph Campbell's analyzations of mythology (which brought even newer ideas about the building blocks of myths, which all came out after LOTR) like Hero With a Thousand Faces, the Hero's Journey, and a couple others. They both did the same thing, they did what ALL writers do...they take the elements from myths (the first stories exploring and paralleling mankind's struggle) and used them to make new myths. The thing is though, Lucas made a much more MODERN myth for MODERN society. It was the first major 20th Century Myth outside of comic books and cowboy/gangster novels. So before you go knocking Lucas, you'd better know the back story on WHOM you're comparing him to before you open yer yap.

Originally posted by TRSundown
Sooo once the shields are down it would take a single photon or quantum torpedo to take down a SUPER star destroyer... Hummm....

You missed my point, the ST ships wouldn't cause enough damage to drop a SS's shields before it dropped the ST ship. Just a thought....

You're so arrogant about all this and you clearly don't even know what you're talking about. You still don't have an answer for the Yuzhaan Vong. So I'll take that as an admission of defeat. once you answer that and quit "accidentally" miss quoting me to make your point seem more valid, I will entertain your silly theories.

So how bout it hot shot? Who in ST can take the entire Yuzhaan Vong race?

I don't hear nuttin'...

"Star Trek has a large following. But Star Wars is easily the most well known movie of all time.

But anyways, I've watched both. (Yes, sue me) And I could tell you easily that the Milleium Falcon would win. For one thing, the Enterprise's shields never lasted one episode, so I have no faith in them whatsoever. The ship had hundreds of people, but most had no control over the battle capability of the Enterprise, and in any case, it requires setting of coordinates, lots of BS, etc. to actually fire rounds. I don't think ithad the targetting or tracking capabilities of a person in the Falcon's turrets simply because it's not made to combat very manueverable ships. About the only advantage the Enterprise has is the tractor beam, and I can't see them catching the Falcon unless someone was really smooth behind the controls.

Meanwhile, the Falcon is a small target, nimble as hell, manned by human gunners and armed with various weapons of military grade... and is piloted by a crack pilot who's defied death more times than anyone onboard the Enterprise.

There, I think I made my argument."--Darth Janus

Well I think that about sums it up. I forgot about the fact that the targeting in ST is always so slow, I remember now, they'd tell 'em to fire and like a minute later it would go off. Seems a bit like playin' Battle Ship to me...