Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And I said thor isn't much with out his hammer. WW beats Classic Thor Eight ways to sunday if they are both unarmed.
Wrong
Thor is able to summon Massive storms, and has access to the god blast without Mjolnir. Add that to being one of the physically most powerful beings in comic dome, and you have a fierce opponent. True Mjolnir adds to his power, but he is still the god of Thunder without it.
Originally posted by kgkg
when was this............ you do remember the fight with Zoom?Flash had to amp himself up to fight someone who travel at higher timeStream...... SS can do the same(with Speed)...... Zoom used that as speed.
am not saying Flash can't keep up with SS.......... of course he can with the Speed force and all.
But saying Flash is faster than SS is just Wrong.
and unfroven........ because no matter how fast u can move..... SS can always move that fast.
Rediculous, Surfer is fast as hell. But he is not the speed forces avatar. THe Flash can use speed in ways the surfer has never been shown to do. In a flat out race. wally would have done the race hundreds of times before surfer finishes.
Originally posted by kgkgThe way he handles Zoom is often CIS/PIS when you consider past feats.
when was this............ you do remember the fight with Zoom?Flash had to amp himself up to fight someone who travel at higher timeStream...... SS can do the same(with Speed)...... Zoom used that as speed.
am not saying Flash can't keep up with SS.......... of course he can with the Speed force and all.
But saying Flash is faster than SS is just Wrong.
and unfroven........ because no matter how fast u can move..... SS can always move that fast.
Alls I'm saying is, if you line up the feats side by side, Flash will come out more impressive than Surfer using speed.
Originally posted by SoujaboyWW will beat Thor with no hammer, and no godforce............... Thor's powers greatly increases when using Mjolnir...... and even greater when using it wisely
WrongThor is able to summon Massive storms, and has access to the god blast without Mjolnir. Add that to being one of the physically most powerful beings in comic dome, and you have a fierce opponent. True Mjolnir adds to his power, but he is still the god of Thunder without it.
Raw power can't think of any hero that can take the Godblast
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Rediculous, Surfer is fast as hell. But he is not the speed forces avatar. THe Flash can use speed in ways the surfer has never been shown to do. In a flat out race. wally would have done the race hundreds of times before surfer finishes.
Surfer has no limit to his speed 🙄
Meaning that he doesn't have to have access to the speedforce to move 500 x the speed of light.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
WrongThor is able to summon Massive storms, and has access to the god blast without Mjolnir. Add that to being one of the physically most powerful beings in comic dome, and you have a fierce opponent. True Mjolnir adds to his power, but he is still the god of Thunder without it.
Classic Thor was not shown to do such things. While wonder woman without her weapons has been shown to use the earth to amp her strength, she has been shown to use the speed force, she has been shown to regenerate from almost nothing. Thor without his hammer would get his ass handed to him. IF WW and thor both had thier standard weapons, she would still win. her gauntlet of atlas grants her much more stregth than his belt of strength. her sword is lethal to superman. and superman's skin is tuffer than thors. her god wave obliterates his godforce. Thor is fierce, but I would never put him up against an amped up diana.
Originally posted by Skeets
Like Kg Said.Surfer Starts much Faster than the Flash.Flash could potentially be faster but it would take some time to accelerate.
Proof? I've seen Flash access the speedforce barely moving. I've also seen Surfer hit and take time to accelerate.
Speedforce will always> Surfer.
Originally posted by Juntaihow so......... when you needed amped flash using speed of other Flashes( this is pretty recent comic)......... to move as fast Surfer on earth(SS did this with no problem)............. and not only that but if surfer wanted he couldn't stop time as fast as he can think.
The way he handles Zoom is often CIS/PIS when you consider past feats.Alls I'm saying is, if you line up the feats side by side, Flash will come out more impressive than Surfer using speed.
now can flash reach any speed...... any time.......... any dimension in no time????????
and of course all of Flash comic is PIS/CIS.......... or else who could beat him
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Originally posted by kgkg
WW will beat Thor with no hammer, and no godforce............... Thor's powers greatly increases when using Mjolnir...... and even greater when using it wiselyRaw power can't think of any hero that can take the Godblast
Originally posted by Avalonofthewindproof read the fight with Zoom 😄
Proof? I've seen Flash access the speedforce barely moving. I've also seen Surfer hit and take time to accelerate.Speedforce will always> Surfer.
SS control time......... flash has shown the need to accelerate in recent comic and even steal speed to catch up to Zoom
Originally posted by SkeetsNope, if he cites the code and accesses the speedforce he steps completely out of sync with our timestream, in a 'time hiccup', and can pencil roll multiples of lightspeed if he wants to.
Like Kg Said.Surfer Starts much Faster than the Flash.Flash could potentially be faster but it would take some time to accelerate.
Classic Thor was shown to do those things. He called the storm against Hercules once without Mjolnir. Mjolnir dosnt have anything to do with him lifting the midgard serpant on two different occasions.( He has done a lot as classic Thor. He was classic Thor up until he gained the Odin power. Juggernaut is a whole other ballgame. He could probably take the omega beams as well. He is completely indestructable. The godforce didnt work on him but it did work on celestials and galactus.
Originally posted by Juntai
Nope, if he cites the code and accesses the speedforce he steps completely out of sync with our timestream, in a 'time hiccup', and can pencil roll multiples of lightspeed if he wants to.
Flash went as far as adding speed from other flash to match Zoom.(someone who only uses higher timestream.. he doesn't even have superspeed)
Originally posted by Skeets
Yet he can't handle Zoom under his own power.Turtle's another who's shut him down.
The same can be said of many of thor or surfer's enemies. it's called making the freaking comic book exciting and worth reading. or else they would face cosmic lvl threats all the time and the books would get stale. GEEZ. get a clue.
Originally posted by SkeetsOh well, he has proven the capabilities needed to beat Zoom many of times.
Yet he can't handle Zoom under his own power.Turtle's another who's shut him down.
While we're bringing up CIS/PIS...Surfer couldn't keep a step ahead of Hulk in the past and recent in Planet Hulk. >.>