Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Marvel has nothing like MM in thier entire character roster. Their is no one in DC like MM. It is even said that he has dozens more powers that he hasn't even revealed. Surfer will win, but not fast and not easy.
I understand, i was thinking you were makeing an analigy directly to omega mutant telepathy, which he has shown prowress over, but i understand what your saying, MM does have a different powerset than Godcable does
Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Im talking about precise manipulation. Thats where Sersi has the edge at. She can turn beings into completely different beings. Like turning Thor into a frog and men into pigs ect. SS has never done anything like that.
I find it quite hard to believe that an Eternal able to turn an offspring of Odin and Gae into a frog, her powers would have to be above that of the Odin force since Thor is powered by it to be able to manipulate, and Cosmic powers usually does not work against magical beings, no shown feat of her turning men into pigs cept her word. So i would have to call that PIS. SS was able to manipulate bodily mass and grant it life, manipulate energy into matter into mostly anything..
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Marvel has nothing like MM in thier entire character roster. Their is no one in DC like MM. It is even said that he has dozens more powers that he hasn't even revealed. Surfer will win, but not fast and not easy.
There are cosmic entities of vast psionic abilities that SS has defeated in the past that surpasses that of MM. But your right do w/ the GL's involvement SS would be swarmed..
Originally posted by MJOILNIR
She actually did turn Thor into a frog during a avengers comic to prove a point. Its right there on panel. I dont have a scan but shes done it.
Originally posted by MJOILNIR
She actually did turn Thor into a frog during a avengers comic to prove a point. Its right there on panel. I dont have a scan but shes done it.
She was proving a point that she is truly powerful. Dont' mess with her. Her invulnerabilty rivals that of Gods and and Brick. her Transmuting powers are up there with Mxy. She can't effect Wide Scale like mxy, but she can do stuff that surfer can't do. Even Mxy made fun of Surfers tans muting powers. Said that surfer couldn't have turned back the city if he had turned it into a completely differernt thing. Sersi could have if she had the Wide scale area. I dont' know how far her powers can affect. but most def, she can transmute better than any hero in marvel or DC. The only people who can do what she can do are high lvl magical beings. And no magical being I know can transmute thor.
Originally posted by Rols
Yeah i know that but thats just PIS, she has to be above the force that protects Thor to be able to do that and She has nowhere close to that kind of showings, it does'nt make sense.
I dont get what your saying. If the force that protects thor was so great, why woudl thor ever need to fight? Or why would thor ever want to battle knowing that the odin force protects him from death. Thor is a warrior. He doest go around wear the odin force as protection. The odin force gives thor a fraction of it's power.it does not protect him. It grants him sufficiant power with his will, to resist those types of attacks from magical beings, say like his brother loki. Sersi is on a different lvl than Loki. her powers are cosmic and she could probably beat the crap out of loki.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont get what your saying. If the force that protects thor was so great, why woudl thor ever need to fight? Or why would thor ever want to battle knowing that the odin force protects him from death. Thor is a warrior. He doest go around wear the odin force as protection. The odin force gives thor a fraction of it's power.it does not protect him.
Your not understanding what im saying, Thors is protected by the Odin force in order for someone to manipulate Thor, they have to surpassed
that force that protects him. And because his a warrior born he well always fight, and death is above Odin force. Thor has always had the Odin force thats why his a god, other wise hed be just normal.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
She was proving a point that she is truly powerful. Dont' mess with her. Her invulnerabilty rivals that of Gods and and Brick. her Transmuting powers are up there with Mxy. She can't effect Wide Scale like mxy, but she can do stuff that surfer can't do. Even Mxy made fun of Surfers tans muting powers. Said that surfer couldn't have turned back the city if he had turned it into a completely differernt thing. Sersi could have if she had the Wide scale area. I dont' know how far her powers can affect. but most def, she can transmute better than any hero in marvel or DC. The only people who can do what she can do are high lvl magical beings. And no magical being I know can transmute thor.
Are you freaking kidding me, Show me scan that puts her in Mxy level or even SS, there is not much you can find of her being on that magnitude, only on paper w/ i really dont know level 5 is, I know Ikaris is at 4-5 now but i still dont know how the break that up..
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
ur missing the entire point of what i said. I said that in order for an energy blast to hurt diana, it has to a small tightly focused beam. wide area beams affect her as much as they affect superman.
Originally posted by Rols
Are you freaking kidding me, Show me scan that puts her in Mxy level or even SS, there is not much you can find of her being on that magnitude, only on paper w/ i really dont know level 5 is, I know Ikaris is at 4-5 now but i still dont know how the break that up..
You didnt' read what I said did you. You scanned it and got all bent up. I said sersi can do things mxy can do that SS cannot. I also said that she can't do the wide area effect that mxy can do or even surfer. but as far as manipulation on the whole, sersi has surfer beat. She can just do stuff he can't do. He can transmute. She can completely change things from one thing into a nother lving thing. Thor from god to frog being a prime example.
Originally posted by K3VIL
I miss nothing man, Surfer can emit a small focused beam, he has high nrg manip power, we all know it.An eyebeam focused to her chest, would pass through it.What makes you believe SS cannot do that.
I have never seen him use his powers like that. He can I'm sure. But he has to catch her off gaurd in order to be able to do that. She can block a small beam like that very easily and wider beams are deflected with the force field. If he can get the hit in, he wins. But fighting 7 jlers, he probably would be to busy fighting off MM and two Gl's to be trying to tightly focus a hit on WW. besides, she has been shown sending people's energy back at them, or in other directions. I wonder HOw thor would feel, if that blast meant to kill Diana is deflected at him.
I said sersi can do things mxy can do that SS cannot.
her Transmuting powers are up there with Mxy.
but as far as manipulation on the whole, sersi has surfer beat.
She can completely change things from one thing into a nother lving thing. Thor from god to frog being a prime example.
Originally posted by Rols
Sersi and SS can do what some of low feat of what myx can do, higher feat, I dont think so..Sorry not even close..
Totally disagree with you, show me of her other feat cept turning Thor into frog w/ i think is questionable (otherwise any of the Celestial Thor has fought could have done it) that surpassess SS manipulation abilities.
The Thor 1 i call that Pis, men turning into pigs (just her words) show me other time shes done it. Like say go back in time, or destroys a virus on a few 100 thousand beings, or fixed a sun, or evolved the whole planet. Unless shes done feat above this then she's diff. above
SS on the manipulation skillz.
It seems to me like your reading what I"m saying and getting what you want out of it. When did I say Sersi or Surfer can do any of the higher feats that mxy can do? I didnt'. I said Sersi can do pin point transmuting that the surfer simply can't do. The surfer Cannot change one life form into another. Not anything complex like a God. I also said that Sersi lacks the Wide area of effect that the surfer has. he can affect global change. I haven't seen her do any changes that wide. Ur comparing skill to power. Sersi has the skill, surfer has the power. Mxy has them both and then some.
Originally posted by Rols
Your not understanding what im saying, Thors is protected by the Odin force in order for someone to manipulate Thor, they have to surpassed
that force that protects him. And because his a warrior born he well always fight, and death is above Odin force. Thor has always had the Odin force thats why his a god, other wise hed be just normal.
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Originally posted by Rols
Correct me if im wrong there, cause obviously you've got something to say..
I just wanted to know where that was stated? for that to be true, every god in the pantheon of Asgard would have to be protected by the Odinpower, or as you stated they would be "normal".
Death may be above the Odinpower, but with the Odinpower Thor was shown to take and give back life.
I have also never seen a reference as to Thor always having the Odinpower?