Silver Surfer & Thor vs JLA

Originally posted by carver9
By the way, it wasnt a cheap shot that titus did against superman, superman attacked him and he attacked back. Superman should have been ready for that attack.

He was beating down Titus' ass until the rest of the League called out to him. He turned around to check on them, when he turned back to Titus he attacked Superman, and this was while Superman was saying "eh?"

Originally posted by carver9
Now what excuse do you all have for what recently happened to wonderwoman and sueprman by the mystery villian on the jla tower by the rock guy with gold fist.

That 'mystery villain' was Titus.

Seriously, do you actually bother reading these comics? It seems like you don't know a thing about them, besides whatever scans are posted on the net.

Originally posted by leonidas
blew up a planet? 😐

umm, you'll need to do a little better than that . . .

and do you mean the asgardian destroyer? the destroyer has wrecked thor countless times in the past. again, we are NOT giving thor the odin power. these are classic levels of all characters.

ss and thor have no shot. (though i'll give you batman's death. 😄 )

naah, I think that'll be enough to do the job, not kill but injure. Some of the team have some great showings against blast and they also have bad showings against blast also. The thing about this silver surfer blast is that he was holding back, noone on the jla has shown me yet (except the gl's) that they have enough power to destroy a planet.

Supergirl just took a blast took the face that was stated as being as strong as a nuke and it temporarily disabled her and supergirl durability is >> wonderwoman and = or close to superman. Superman did take a blast from imperex but the level of power was ever said. It could have been continent destroying or even city level destroying but we cant base it off what we think.

The thing that makes me think is that the jla fought a space ship and was damaged tremendously by it. Captain marvel was turned inside out. Sometimes the jla displays huge level of power and another time there durability sucks. 🙁

Originally posted by Rorschach
He was beating down Titus' ass until the rest of the League called out to him. He turned around to check on them, when he turned back to Titus he attacked Superman, and this was while Superman was saying "eh?"

That 'mystery villain' was Titus.

Seriously, do you actually bother reading these comics? It seems like you don't know a thing about them, besides whatever scans are posted on the net.

Well I didnt see the name because they never gave the name in that particular comic. Those are two different comics that Im talking about. One was when they actually fought titus that carried a club and the second was when a rock guy with gold hands attacked the jla tower knocking both superman and wonderwoman out. I havent had time to see what happened next. Im going by what I recently seen. 😕

Originally posted by leonidas
blew up a planet? 😐

😏

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Pshaw. Even Rogue can do that.

😏

😆

hilarious

Originally posted by carver9
Supergirl just took a blast took the face that was stated as being as strong as a nuke and it temporarily disabled her and supergirl durability is >> wonderwoman and = or close to superman.

Wrong again. Supergirl was attacked by a person who is basically a living piece of space. She said to herself “was that a Nuke?”. It wasn’t stated that what she was hit by was a Nuke, instead, late in the comic, he even says that he’s using stars as weapons. And Supergirl wasn’t temporarily disabled. She kept the fighting the guy.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman did take a blast from imperex but the level of power was ever said. It could have been continent destroying or even city level destroying but we cant base it off what we think.

Superman has also absorbed enough energy that was going to destroy half the Galaxy during the World War III storyline. He took a planet destroying attack during Back in action. Survived the explosion of a Sun-Eater during the Time and Time again storyline, and in the same storyline, he didn’t feel the destruction of the moon. Surviving the destruction of an Imperiex Probe isn’t one of his high showings.

Originally posted by carver9
The thing that makes me think is that the jla fought a space ship and was damaged tremendously by it. Captain marvel was turned inside out. Sometimes the jla displays huge level of power and another time there durability sucks. 🙁

That Spaceship was the most powerful weapon of its Universe. It destroyed a planet and a moon in that very story. It was stated to have more energy than a nova. And it was stated to have destroyed planets, and stars. Captain Marvel was turned inside out because he was hit by a tesseract bomb, which was built to turn people inside out.

Originally posted by carver9
Well I didnt see the name because they never gave the name in that particular comic. Those are two different comics that Im talking about. One was when they actually fought titus that carried a club and the second was when a rock guy with gold hands attacked the jla tower knocking both superman and wonderwoman out. I havent had time to see what happened next. Im going by what I recently seen. 😕

In JLA Classified #50, the ‘mystery villain’ attacks. In JLA Classified #51, it is revealed that the ‘mystery villain’ is Titus. Anyone who’s actually read both issues would know that Titus was the villain that appeared in issue #50.

Originally posted by Rorschach
Wrong again. Supergirl was attacked by a person who is basically a living piece of space. She said to herself “was that a Nuke?”. It wasn’t stated that what she was hit by was a Nuke, instead, late in the comic, he even says that he’s using stars as weapons. And Supergirl wasn’t temporarily disabled. She kept the fighting the guy.

Superman has also absorbed enough energy that was going to destroy half the Galaxy during the World War III storyline. He took a planet destroying attack during Back in action. Survived the explosion of a Sun-Eater during the Time and Time again storyline, and in the same storyline, he didn’t feel the destruction of the moon. Surviving the destruction of an Imperiex Probe isn’t one of his high showings.

That Spaceship was the most powerful weapon of its Universe. It destroyed a planet and a moon in that very story. It was stated to have more energy than a nova. And it was stated to have destroyed planets, and stars. Captain Marvel was turned inside out because he was hit by a tesseract bomb, which was built to turn people inside out.

Got a question for ya because youre contradicting yourself. You tell me that the ship gave off blast that was planet destroying that DID harm the jla and almost killed them, then you tell me about all of these blast that superman took. Not adding up. I knew about the blast, superman has some good showings against blast along with some bad showings. Hell, rogue even took a nuke to the chest saving magneto but how many nukes are they able to take like that, thats the question.

From what I seen of the nuke or close to nuke blast that super girl was hit by, she was temporarily disabled and shocked. I havent seen what happened in the next issue because the issue that I did see, he ended it with a blast to the face.

Originally posted by Rorschach
In JLA Classified #50, the ‘mystery villain’ attacks. In JLA Classified #51, it is revealed that the ‘mystery villain’ is Titus. Anyone who’s actually read both issues would know that Titus was the villain that appeared in issue #50.

I think that you got it kind of backwards. They fought titus and the name was stated in #50 and then in 51 there was no name given in that issue. It ended with the martian talking about what would happen if he was set free.

I dont think that you read the issue. Same villian with two different appearances.

Originally posted by carver9
You tell me that the ship gave off blast that was planet destroying that DID harm the jla and almost killed them, then you tell me about all of these blast that superman took. Not adding up.

They didn’t just take one attack from that Spaceship, they were attacked several times. They battled against that ship for three whole issues. It was a tough battle, but no one ‘nearly died’.

Originally posted by carver9
I knew about the blast, superman has some good showings against blast along with some bad showings.

In recent years his good showings outweigh his bad showings. During the Brynes era he was knocked out by a 40 Megaton Nuclear Bomb. Sometime after OWAW he took a city destroying attack without suffering any serious damage. More recently he took the explosion capable of splitting the Earth in half, and was fine.

Originally posted by carver9
Hell, rogue even took a nuke to the chest saving magneto but how many nukes are they able to take like that, thats the question.

In Hunter/Prey, Superman took the equivalent of a million Nukes, while he was battling Doomsday.

Originally posted by carver9
From what I seen of the nuke or close to nuke blast that super girl was hit by, she was temporarily disabled and shocked.

It wasn’t a Nuke. Supergirl mistook it for a Nuke because she didn’t know who she was fighting. She asks the guy if he’s using anything like a nuke, and he tells her that it was a star.And after taking that attack she kept fighting. She wasn’t ‘disabled’ at all.

Originally posted by carver9
I havent seen what happened in the next issue because the issue that I did see, he ended it with a blast to the face.

And she wasn’t shown to be injured or knocked out after that. The explosion was shown, but Supergirl and Reactron weren’t.

When did Rogue take a nuke...?

Originally posted by carver9
I think that you got it kind of backwards. They fought titus and the name was stated in #50 and then in 51 there was no name given in that issue. It ended with the martian talking about what would happen if he was set free.

I dont think that you read the issue. Same villian with two different appearances.

No. You’re the one who doesn’t know what the hell you’re talking about. In issue #50, Titus’ name is not stated, at the end of the issue Martian Manhunter says he knows who the ‘mystery villain’ is. Issue #51 takes place further in the past, where it is revealed that the ‘mystery villain’ is be Titus.

Originally posted by Rorschach
They didn’t just take one attack from that Spaceship, they were attacked several times. They battled against that ship for three whole issues. It was a tough battle, but no one ‘nearly died’.

In recent years his good showings outweigh his bad showings. During the Brynes era he was knocked out by a 40 Megaton Nuclear Bomb. Sometime after OWAW he took a city destroying attack without suffering any serious damage. More recently he took the explosion capable of splitting the Earth in half, and was fine.

In Hunter/Prey, Superman took the equivalent of a million Nukes, while he was battling Doomsday.

It wasn’t a Nuke. Supergirl mistook it for a Nuke because she didn’t know who she was fighting. She asks the guy if he’s using anything like a nuke, and he tells her that it was a star.And after taking that attack she kept fighting. She wasn’t ‘disabled’ at all.

And she wasn’t shown to be injured or knocked out after that. The explosion was shown, but Supergirl and Reactron weren’t.

OMG, youre SO good, Im not going to lie, you are the best debator on here. When I see your name and that crazy picture that you have under your bio, I already know whats in store. Where to start, ok, she was downing him telling him that he dont have a nose and where is his brain, etc... and he told her to look at the glowing light on his fourhead and he asked her do she see that its moving and then the star ended up going to his hands and he blasted her. He might said that in the next issue but he never said what he was shooting in that issue.

Again, like I said before, superman has great showings, then he also have bad showings like getting knocked out by a exploding gas station. Black canary knocked him a couple of feat away with a scream that temporarily had him disabled. During a battle with orion, orion shot blasts at him that made him scream in pain. Superman durability depends on the writers. Gog temporarily stunned him stepping on his head giving him a nose bleed and shot blast at him that wasnt even city destructive but had him in pain.

Originally posted by Rorschach
No. You’re the one who doesn’t know what the hell you’re talking about. In issue #50, Titus’ name is not stated, at the end of the issue Martian Manhunter says he knows who the ‘mystery villain’ is. Issue #51 takes place further in the past, where it is revealed that the ‘mystery villain’ is be Titus.

We're talking about two different comics and I think two different villians. This rock being that Im talking about didnt possess a club, just used his fist. I know who titus is and this didnt appear as titus, unless titus have taken a different form.

And... hasn't Thor been put down by a sniper shot...?
And Surfer a brick to the head?

So? ermm

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And... hasn't Thor been put down by a sniper shot...?
And Surfer a brick to the head?

So? ermm

and havent thor recently taken mutiple of bullet shots not even feeling them and surfer was hit by a brick that karnak threw at him, a being that can see a weak point in any villian/hero.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And... hasn't Thor been put down by a sniper shot...?
And Surfer a brick to the head?

So? ermm

Owned much?

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Originally posted by carver9
OMG, youre SO good, Im not going to lie, you are the best debator on here. When I see your name and that crazy picture that you have under your bio, I already know whats in store.

I'm actually one of the worst debaters on this forum. You just happen to suck even more than I do.

Originally posted by carver9
Where to start, ok, she was downing him telling him that he dont have a nose and where is his brain, etc... and he told her to look at the glowing light on his fourhead and he asked her do she see that its moving and then the star ended up going to his hands and he blasted her. He might said that in the next issue but he never said what he was shooting in that issue.

He says he’s a region of space is part of him in that very issue. The explosion that he used at the end of the issue wasn’t shown knocking out or injuring Supergirl. So I don’t know why you’re assuming that it did.

Originally posted by carver9
Again, like I said before, superman has great showings, then he also have bad showings like getting knocked out by a exploding gas station.

That was Bryne’s era Superman. It happened over ten years ago. Like I said, in recent times he hasn’t been knocked out by something as weak as the explosion of a gas station.

Originally posted by carver9
Black canary knocked him a couple of feat away with a scream that temporarily had him disabled.

And yet, in that same issue he said that he was fine and went on to try and battle Despero, until Zatanna intervened. Hell, he even took an attack from Despero after taking Black Canary’s scream, and still wasn’t knocked out.

Originally posted by carver9
During a battle with orion, orion shot blasts at him that made him scream in pain.

Superman confidential takes place in the past. That was his first meeting with Orion, and the New Gods. Not that getting hurt by the Astro Force is a low showing, it has a freaking connection to the Source, but Superman Confidential is all about Superman’s early days.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman durability depends on the writers.

And in recent times writers have written him to more powerful than he was in the past. I can’t event remember the last time he was knocked out by a Nuclear warhead.

Originally posted by carver9
Gog temporarily stunned him stepping on his head giving him a nose bleed and shot blast at him that wasnt even city destructive but had him in pain.

Gog didn’t seriously hurt Superman until he injected Superman with liquid kryptonite. Up until that point Superman was doing fine against Gog, and was actually winning.

So what the hell is your point? That people can hurt Superman? Of course they can, it would be a pretty boring attack if only planet destroying attacks could hurt him. But that’s not the point. The point is that he can take attacks that would lay waste to a planet, without getting knocked out, even though he can be hurt by attacks with less power.

Originally posted by carver9
We're talking about two different comics and I think two different villians. This rock being that Im talking about didnt possess a club, just used his fist. I know who titus is and this didnt appear as titus, unless titus have taken a different form.

That rock creature is Titus. 😐

He comes back in a different form and only Martian Manhunter could tell who he was. Issue #51 is a flashback.

Originally posted by Rorschach
I'm actually one of the worst debaters on this forum. You just happen to suck even more than I do.

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