Originally posted by celestialdemonCannabis gives you heavier and thicker residue. Also, must people that smoke that also smoke cigs.
But the residue doesn't stay on your lungs. You eventually cough it up. If it stayed there, then it would make sense that smoking weed would cause severe lung damage over time. Yet that isn't the case.On the other hand, the residue left by cigarettes sticks to the lungs for a very, very long time. That's why you see pictures of black lungs and smokers having a hard time breathing.
Originally posted by inimalist
what evidence do you have of the alcohol industry throwing its weight around? you know, in the era when huge portions of the public were dead set against it.
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I'm confused because that's a point you made. I am saying that IF I am to use that point of yours, I need evidence to back it up when this subject is being discussed.
Originally posted by inimalist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_J._Anslinger#The_campaign_against_marijuana_1930-1937that is the info about Anslinger, if you claim to support drug legalization, you have to know who he is.
Oh yes yes. I know who this guy is. But...no where in there am I reading about alcohol lobbyists fighting to make it illegal.
I am fully aware of the Evil and ambitious exploits of Anslinger.
Originally posted by inimalist
Hash and opium were readily availible anywhere before it was made illegal, there was a huge trade in it from India and other south Asian nations (not to mention the opium wars). I don't have any numbers, but the fact that both were used in patent medicine means that opium and marijuana would have had the backing of the patent medical industry, if we want to try and explain it that way.
There's also the sacred founding father's argument as well. That, imo, should hold more weight with the conservatives who find it important to force their ideals on everyone else. If you mention that to a conservative, their mouth usually falls open and they don't believe you. I find that conservatives are usually the most ignorant people when it comes to politics and history. Go figure. 😐
Originally posted by inimalist
Anslinger is the best way to understand it imho.talks about hemp production being encouraged by the government and the availibility of pot.
Oh, yes, I am aware of this already. I've studied this quite a bit on multiple occasions.
I was looking for info on the alcohol industry being one of the major pushers behind the criminalization of MJ. I have never heard of it before and was excited to be armed with more information.
And what is this I keep reading from you posters about residue on the lungs?
Dudes...don't be stupid, vaporize. 😐 That eliminates that argument.
NEXT!
Originally posted by dadudemon
I was looking for info on the alcohol industry being one of the major pushers behind the criminalization of MJ. I have never heard of it before and was excited to be armed with more information.
I was also questioning this, as I believe it to be 100% untrue.
I wouldn't be surprised to find that to be the case now, but I'm almost more certain that Labatts and Molson would rather be able to sell you their name brand pot along with their beer...
alcohol wasn't a powerful industry in the early 1900s, especially not one with the political clout to make a widely available and used substance illegal. Doom and Gloom, iirc, was the one who said it was.
That Anslinger though... Like, maybe one of the worst people in recent history... He is on my top 10 almost for sure.
EDIT: for redundency - The alcohol industry, to the best of my knowledge and from any logical reasoning, had little if anything to do with the initial criminalization of marijuana.
Originally posted by dadudemon
And what is this I keep reading from you posters about residue on the lungs?
people accept as a foundation to the argument that the government has the right to ban things that hurt you.
So, instead of talking about personal rights, people try to make it look as though whatever it is they want to be legal isn't as bad as things that are legal.
Unfortunately the logical consequence to this is the criminalization of already legal things, and not the decriminalization of illegal things.
The harm argument is a terrible one for drug legalization anyways, regardless of the harm reduction available on the open market (which I think IS a good argument). I'm too poor right now, but there is a volcano in my future
the volcanoes are worth it, but I hear that 🙂
blah, I ask like I'm familiar with the stuff. Where are vapor bros located? Anything special about their equipment?
I used to live with a guy who blew glass in our garage. His kiln made an awesome vaporizer. Make like an L with a tube of glass, put some bud in one end and put that end in the kiln, sha-blam!.