Originally posted by RedAlertv2
Around here its 25 for 1.8 grams, although like Mairuzu I can usually get it free. Its good quality though, worth the price. I love Washington state, not only are there great growers here but we also get all the good stuff from California and Canada.
yea that price sounds about right. The little bastards that buy from medical shops and resell it usually give only 1 gram for 20 which is crap.
The main guys we buy from will give us 1.4 - 1.5 for 20. I think they buy from someone that grows... or they buy big.
Originally posted by Deja~vu
They both kill people. The only difference is that cigarettes don't hinder brain activity nor have as much short term memory loss.
Both kill people? Please show me one documented case of marijuana killing someone. Not marijuana laced with something else or people who were drinking and smoking and died in a car accident or something similar. Just marijuana.
Originally posted by Mairuzu
Even if that is true, cigs are way more dangerous for your body, and thats not enough of an excuse to make it illegal.
We should all stick to nice, taxable, cerosis/death causing, infidelity aiding, wife beating, legal, Street-brawls-after-the-pubs-close taxable Alchohol like the gov tells us to... 😖hifty:
Originally posted by Deja~vu
Lung damage is what I mean. Cannabis leaves a thicker residue on your lungs.
But the residue doesn't stay on your lungs. You eventually cough it up. If it stayed there, then it would make sense that smoking weed would cause severe lung damage over time. Yet that isn't the case.
On the other hand, the residue left by cigarettes sticks to the lungs for a very, very long time. That's why you see pictures of black lungs and smokers having a hard time breathing.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Evidence?I'm looking for product volume, money, and "employees" involved in getting end product into the consumer's hands.
I ask because I don't think what you said was correct OR what you said has no evidence.
Do not misinterpret my post as agressive because both you and I are on the same side here. I just don't want to be caught off guard when I say that the alcohol industry threw their weight around. The more factual knowledge I have, the better case I can make for MJ legalization.
what evidence do you have of the alcohol industry throwing its weight around? you know, in the era when huge portions of the public were dead set against it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_J._Anslinger#The_campaign_against_marijuana_1930-1937
that is the info about Anslinger, if you claim to support drug legalization, you have to know who he is.
Hash and opium were readily availible anywhere before it was made illegal, there was a huge trade in it from India and other south Asian nations (not to mention the opium wars). I don't have any numbers, but the fact that both were used in patent medicine means that opium and marijuana would have had the backing of the patent medical industry, if we want to try and explain it that way.
Anslinger is the best way to understand it imho.
talks about hemp production being encouraged by the government and the availibility of pot.
Just to throw it out there:
don't argue about whether pot is worse for you than cigarettes. Its a fake argument and it is moot. You can prioritize any affect of either substance and claim that is why it is worse than the others. This leads to 2 things:
1) endless debate in circles about what is worse than what, based on medical studies of pot from over 30 years ago, which have spurious, at best, methodology. It is highly accurate to say that there is little to no good research on psychoactive drugs at this point.
2) It is moot to the argument. claiming "pot isn't that bad, so it should be legal" is conceding the point that a) pot is bad and b) the government can control bad things. Both of these are terrible to concede if you are pro legalization. By prefacing the debate as a measure of harm, you give anti-drug people justification for saying pot should be illegal because they have a different opinion of harm, rather than attacking them for oppressing free choice.
It is really immature too, imho. "daddy daddy, look what those boys are doing! they are smoking! daddy, that means I can smoke pot too, doesn't it daddy?"
Originally posted by inimalistswap test stoned
Canada, bitchesour ganja rocks you
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
We should all stick to nice, taxable, cerosis/death causing, infidelity aiding, wife beating, legal, Street-brawls-after-the-pubs-close taxable Alchohol like the gov tells us to... 😖hifty:
yes, and ban a plant that does the exact opposite!
as far as I know there has been no deaths related to Marijuana side effects. The thing about MJ and Cigs is that Cigs are addictive with nicotin. More people die by Cigs, alcohol poisoning, and miss use of prescription drugs, then people die of MJ. And no i do not mean all of those combined. Each one individually has had more reported deaths then MJ.