Originally posted by Jury
Because I'm just agreeing with the Biblical pronouncement regarding the place where there will be "gnashing of teeth" ... "day and night".
The weeping and gnashing of teeth day and night I explained earlier on, but REMEMBER, when the OT and NT was written, the concept of a burning hell was not yet implemented..That came in the 2nd century.
Originally posted by debbiejo
The weeping and gnashing of teeth day and night I explained earlier on, but REMEMBER, when the OT and NT was written, the concept of a burning hell was not yet implemented..That came in the 2nd century.
you know, just to leap off topic for a moment, Debbie, you really impress me. I'm so glad you're willing to research your own religion. Even if you don't reach the same conclusion I did, I still think you rule for being willing to listen to the facts...AND for going out of your way to become more informed. Good for you.
there is no fairness in that. but yea if u believe in christianity/islam/some forms of judaism you do indeed go to hell and for eternity as even the worst BELIEVERS in islam will get out of hell after their punishment is finished no matter what theyv done if they only believe in there being one god and messenger etc. on the other hand any1 who doesnt believe in that no matter how good will burn eternally in the deepest pit of hell. itss all BULLSHIT though
Originally posted by RedAlertv2joe is cool. Bob is a dick. If there was a heaven and a god, neither would go. Because god sucks.
Okay here is a scenario involving the fictional characters of bob and joeBob is a devout Christian. goes to church every Sunday, prays, and loves Jesus. But Bob is a bad person. He does nothing that doesnt benefit himself, and lies and cheats to get his way. but bob also genuinely believes in and loves God. He is a truly religious person
On the other hand, Bob's neighbor Joe is a great guy. He does community service, is always honest, and never cheats or steals. But Joe is also a declared Athiest. He has actively spoken out against the church and said publicly that he does not believe in God
My question is: Would God let either of these men into heaven?
Re: My Question
Originally posted by RedAlertv2
Okay here is a scenario involving the fictional characters of bob and joeBob is a devout Christian. goes to church every Sunday, prays, and loves Jesus. But Bob is a bad person. He does nothing that doesnt benefit himself, and lies and cheats to get his way. but bob also genuinely believes in and loves God. He is a truly religious person
On the other hand, Bob's neighbor Joe is a great guy. He does community service, is always honest, and never cheats or steals. But Joe is also a declared Athiest. He has actively spoken out against the church and said publicly that he does not believe in God
My question is: Would God let either of these men into heaven?
No, neither of them will let into heaven. They're both following parts of the Bible but ignoring other parts as well. That alone is a sin.
All one has to do is to ask for forgiveness and then god will take you into heaven now Bob may ask for forgiveness because he is christian and will be in a desperate attempt on his death bed, but Joe who is an athiest wont think about asking for forgiveness so any sins he did commit will be seen and canceled out by other good deeds and depending on which he has more of (which seems to be good deeds) he will be let into heaven, they would be both let into heaven because one had asked for forgiveness and one was a good person
Originally posted by lancethebrave
but Joe who is an athiest wont think about asking for forgiveness so any sins he did commit will be seen and canceled out by other good deeds and depending on which he has more of (which seems to be good deeds) he will be let into heaven, they would be both let into heaven because one had asked for forgiveness and one was a good person
Thats not how it. Go read the Bible and dont try to pass on perversion. You can in no way not even believe in God and still expect to enter into his kingdom when you die. Plus if haven't repented of your sins and they aren't under the blood no amount of good deeds will matter in the end because you didn't follow the Bible. What kind of idiot are you?