Originally posted by Deadline
I said Thor AND She-Hulk.Not neccsarily, if he can't punch harder than Thor hammer I'm well within my rights to ask how hes going to get past his barriers.
she hulk isn't on that level, though.
yes, necessarily. he has the feats to show he can break through incredibly strong barriers, and just because thor couldn't do it on that occasion doesn't mean it would necessarily happen the same way again.
Originally posted by 753
DS is an impressive one, but GL constructs get broken all the time by people lower in the food chain
this one was designed to hold superman, though.
Originally posted by -Pr-that's a very slim chance, assuming magneto even knew that it would work.
He doesn't neccsarily need to do that.
Originally posted by -Pr-
he broke through darkseid's shields in FC, and he one-punched john stewart's construct too.not saying stewart's is more powerful, but it's at least comparable imo.
Thats just some high-end showing which doesn't apply on average. Thor also cracked Celestial armour doesn't mean hes breaking Mags shields.
Originally posted by Deadline
He doesn't neccsarily need to do that.Thats just some high-end showing which doesn't apply on average. Thor also cracked Celestial armour doesn't mean hes breaking Mags shields.
i didn't say he did. i just said it was unlikely.
on average his heat vision is still incredibly powerful. it's not outside his abilities. so yes, it can apply.
Originally posted by -Pr-
i didn't say he did. i just said it was unlikely.
You don't get the point I'm making, there are other ways to F with superman apart from creating red sunlight.
Originally posted by -Pr-
on average his heat vision is still incredibly powerful. it's not outside his abilities. so yes, it can apply.
On average his heat Vison is more powerful than Thor hammer? I don't think so somehow. Mags FTW.
Originally posted by -Pr-
she hulk isn't on that level, though.
It doesn't matter because it was Thor and She-Hulk. Thor + She-Hulk >> Superman.
Originally posted by -Pr-
yes, necessarily. he has the feats to show he can break through incredibly strong barriers, and just because thor couldn't do it on that occasion doesn't mean it would necessarily happen the same way again.
Those are high-end showings.
Originally posted by Deadline
You don't get the point I'm making, there are other ways to F with superman apart from creating red sunlight.On average his heat Vison is more powerful than Thor hammer? I don't think so somehow. Mags FTW.
It doesn't matter because it was Thor and She-Hulk. Thor + She-Hulk >> Superman.
Those are high-end showings.
i did get your point. i just don't agree.
i didn't say it was. i just said it was powerful.
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high end showings still apply in cases.
let's say you're right, though. let's say superman can't break down the shield. then what? how is magneto going to win?
How would Mags even know he has a weakness to create red sun radiation? He doesnt have cosmic awareness. Just because he can smell/sense Electomagnetism that doesnt mean he knows its a weakness or how to make the exact same red sun rad. Dr. Polaris knows Supes very well, so of course he'd know how to fight Supes a lot better than Mags could even though hes less powerful.
Originally posted by The Nuul
How would Mags even know he has a weakness to create red sun radiation? He doesnt have cosmic awareness. Just because he can smell sense Electomagnetism that doesnt mean he knows its a weakness. Dr. Polaris knows Supes very well, so of course he'd know how to fight Supes a lot better than Mags could even though hes less powerful.
he wouldn't.
polaris was a cheap shot of the highest order. superman wasn't even trying to fight him.
pretty sure DP could just sense the way SM's power work by absorbing sunlight and screwed with the process.
Mags can deliver massive EMPs inside his skull, manipulate the iron in his blood, rupture the electromagnetic field that is his mind, affect his nervous impulses, screw the bioelectric aura that captures sunlight and makes him invulnerable (assuming that's still canon), go for the raw power blasting, etc. None of these guarantee a win, but they are all possible ways to harm SM. Overall, I think this is a split.
Originally posted by -Pr-
he wouldn't.polaris was a cheap shot of the highest order. superman wasn't even trying to fight him.
Thats the other thing, Supes is not going to allow Mags to get free shots.
Iron in Supes blood, this claim again....someone please provide scans or issue numbers stating Supes alien blood has Iron. Or Pr can confim this.
Originally posted by The Nuulhe bleeds red, but more to the point, I recall scientists saying he was actually just like humans in terms of internal physiology, same internal organs, etc, dont know if that has been retconned. The question is, would a kryptonian under a red sun be any different from a human?
Thats the other thing, Supes is not going to allow Mags to get free shots.Iron in Supes blood, this claim again....someone please provide scans or issue numbers stating Supes alien blood has Iron. Or Pr can confim this.
Originally posted by 753
he bleeds red, but more to the point, I recall scientists saying he was actually just like humans in terms of internal physiology, same internal organs, etc, dont know if that has been retconned. The question is, would a kryptonian under a red sun be any different from a human?
he has non human organs. outwardly, he looks human, but his genetics are different enough to make him incompatible with human women when it comes to conceiving children. add that to the confirmed appearence of other organs, and the difficulty some doctors have had in treating him, and i'd wager that he's different enough to humans for it to be noticeable.
and the iron thing was a once off, imo. it doesn't set a precedent.
he doesnt have the aura anymore, and even when he did it was only part of his invulnerability, not the totality of it.
Originally posted by -Pr-it was confirmed he cant have children with humans?
he has non human organs. outwardly, he looks human, but his genetics are different enough to make him incompatible with human women when it comes to conceiving children. add that to the confirmed appearence of other organs, and the difficulty some doctors have had in treating him, and i'd wager that he's different enough to humans for it to be noticeable.
what do you mean?
and the iron thing was a once off, imo. it doesn't set a precedent.
This one is out then. It wasn't mags only way to deliver damage, however
he doesnt have the aura anymore, and even when he did it was only part of his invulnerability, not the totality of it.
Originally posted by 753
it was confirmed he cant have children with humans?
what do you mean?
This one is out then. It wasn't mags only way to deliver damage, however
yes. he and lois tried, and she felt shitty about it, if im remembering the issues right. it was during the "last son" arc.
it was referenced once that he had iron in his blood, but only once that i can recall.
oh, of course not, was just saying.
Originally posted by -Pr-
he has non human organs. outwardly, he looks human, but his genetics are different enough to make him incompatible with human women when it comes to conceiving children. add that to the confirmed appearence of other organs, and the difficulty some doctors have had in treating him, and i'd wager that he's different enough to humans for it to be noticeable.and the iron thing was a once off, imo. it doesn't set a precedent.
So in others words, PIS?
Full power Magnus beats Superman in my opinion.
What issue was the Polaris fight? And does anyone know the number of the JLA issue where Superman encounters that white haired electromagnetic spectrum manipulator? The one who had Superman claiming that he'd die if he completely shut off solar radiation to his cells or something similar.