Magneto vs Superman

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Full power Magnus beats Superman in my opinion.

What issue was the Polaris fight? And does anyone know the number of the JLA issue where Superman encounters that white haired electromagnetic spectrum manipulator? The one who had Superman claiming that he'd die if he completely shut off solar radiation to his cells or something similar.

Full powered Magnus only beats mild powered supes. Full powered supes smears full powered Magnus

As for Polaris its in Action comics#827,828

A mild powered Superman? What exactly do you mean by that? And what exactly is a full powered Superman? In your mind at least.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
A mild powered Superman? What exactly do you mean by that? And what exactly is a full powered Superman? In your mind at least.

A mild powered supes is the one that folds over in the mere presence of any weakness exploitation device. The full powered one ,though affected, pushes through and usually shakes it off (with in reason)

Originally posted by paisapower
A mild powered supes is the one that folds over in the mere presence of any weakness exploitation device. The full powered one ,though affected, pushes through and usually shakes it off (with in reason)

So superman can shake through having his invulnerability taken from him like poloris did? How about when poloris blinded him, can he shake through with tha as well?

Originally posted by carver9
So superman can shake through having his invulnerability taken from him like poloris did? How about when poloris blinded him, can he shake through with tha as well?

Not Imediately, but he could use the rest of his super senses to compensate till he does

Originally posted by paisapower
Not Imediately, but he could use the rest of his super senses to compensate till he does

If poloris wanted him dead during the time he took his invulnerability, he would have been dead. A couple of thousand pipes surrounding superman coming at tremendous speeds should be enough.

He was blind and he was less durable. He was basically defenseless.

Originally posted by carver9
If poloris wanted him dead during the time he took his invulnerability, he would have been dead. A couple of thousand pipes surrounding superman coming at tremendous speeds should be enough.

He was blind and he was less durable. He was basically defenseless.

First of all he didnt take anything but his sight and as I showed with the scan It did nothing lasting.

Originally posted by paisapower
First of all he didnt take anything but his sight and as I showed with the scan It did nothing lasting.

The first attack was towards his eyes... the second attack was when he put his hands on his chest and depleted his invulnerability. That is when superman was laying on the groud squirming in pain. Supes then gets up and fly off with the male poloris.

Originally posted by carver9
The first attack was towards his eyes... the second attack was when he put his hands on his chest and depleted his invulnerability. That is when superman was laying on the groud squirming in pain. Supes then gets up and fly off with the male poloris.

So at what point did u get this idea that his invulnerability was compromised to such an extant that he could easily be killed?

Originally posted by paisapower
So at what point did u get this idea that his invulnerability was compromised to such an extant that he could easily be killed?

Why did superman run?

Originally posted by carver9
Why did superman run?

Buddy, I have the comic right in front of me and he never ran

I think the poll has spoken lol, and to be quite frank Im a little tired of the bias Im seeing against Supes here. Regardless if its in the "can any mutant beat supes"thread or this one. It seems like a lot of the arguments made against Supes here are tpyicall low balling feats with complete denial of any showings to the contrary.

This isnt to say that I dont think mag doesnt have a impressive powerset, but he and supes are on 2 different levels here and Supes has every concievable advantage coming into the match. If both are fighting at optimal levels I just dont see mag taking a single win without PIS/CIS involved.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i did get your point. i just don't agree.

K

Originally posted by -Pr-

i didn't say it was. i just said it was powerful.

ermm

and if it's not more powerful than Thor hammer, he's in deep dodo.

Originally posted by -Pr-

high end showings still apply in cases.

Which means that Supes can get 2 wins at most since he can't pull stuff like that on average.

Originally posted by -Pr-

et's say you're right, though. let's say superman can't break down the shield. then what? how is magneto going to win?

Red Sunlight and K-nite are just radiation at a certain frequency. Mags can see into the electromagnetic spectrum and beyond and can create radiation that could F him up. Look what Mags did when he was dying and weakened.

Originally posted by Philosophía
[b]Magneto vs Proteus

*Magneto is dying and not at full power
*Magneto can manipulate forms of energy even outside of the electromagnetic spectrum -- and does so by taking control of Proteus's body and modifying his energy matrix.
"Energy, Proteus. Just electrons dancing."
[/B]

Not to mention what Parasite did to Superman. I don't know about his powerset in general but in one issue he had the ability to tap into the earth electromagnetic field (which Magneto can do) and his powers were magnetic based. He basically started draining Superman's energy and Superman had to be saved.

Not to mention that Mags could react to a speedblitz from Superman. Superman is Fed.

Magneto wins 9 or 8/10.

Originally posted by Deadline
K

and if it's not more powerful than Thor hammer, he's in deep dodo.

Which means that Supes can get 2 wins at most since he can't pull stuff like that on average.

Red Sunlight and K-nite are just radiation at a certain frequency. Mags can see into the electromagnetic spectrum and beyond and can create radiation that could F him up. Look what Mags did when he was dying and weakened.

Not to mention what Parasite did to Superman. I don't know about his powerset in general but in one issue he had the ability to tap into the earth electromagnetic field (which Magneto can do) and his powers were magnetic based. He basically started draining Superman's energy and Superman had to be saved.

Not to mention that Mags could react to a speedblitz from Superman. Superman is Fed.

Magneto wins 9 or 8/10.

Good post... very good post.

Originally posted by paisapower
Buddy, I have the comic right in front of me and he never ran

We are either talking about two different comics or you don't know what in the hell you are talking about. I could completely "own" you right now just by posting a couple of scans.

The amount of hypocrisy by some posters is staggering. facepalm

Superman wins

Originally posted by Badabing
The amount of hypocrisy by some posters is staggering. facepalm

lol

"Which means that Supes can get 2 wins at most since he can't pull stuff like that on average."

KMC rules specifically state that each opponent is at full capcity and optimal levels of power. This isn't a comic fight....although if it was supes would still trash mags (and that point cant be argued).

"Red Sunlight and K-nite are just radiation at a certain frequency. Mags can see into the electromagnetic spectrum and beyond and can create radiation that could F him up. Look what Mags did when he was dying and weakened."

And of course we all know Supes doesn't have speedster movement, I assume while mag is busy doing all of this supes will just be texting or taking a nap. On that note, I would love to know how Mag will be able to not only replicate k-nite/red sun radiation (even a GL has problems doing this) and how he will do it before Supes will blitz him.

"Not to mention what Parasite did to Superman. I don't know about his powerset in general but in one issue he had the ability to tap into the earth electromagnetic field (which Magneto can do) and his powers were magnetic based. He basically started draining Superman's energy and Superman had to be saved."

.........

"Not to mention that Mags could react to a speedblitz from Superman. Superman is Fed."

.............I must be in the twilight zone lol.

Supes 10/10

Magneto wins 9 or 8/10. [/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by Rhiaggo

KMC rules specifically state that each opponent is at full capcity and optimal levels of power. This isn't a comic fight....although if it was supes would still trash mags (and that point cant be argued).

You don't understand the rules that doesn't mean that highest showings apply every time, we go by average showings.

Optimal conditions may mean Spiderman doesn't pull his punches but it doesn't mean that Spiderman can punch so hard he can smash Iron Man's armour.

Originally posted by Rhiaggo

And of course we all know Supes doesn't have speedster movement, I assume while mag is busy doing all of this supes will just be texting or taking a nap.

Superman will be trying to break through the shields. Since Mags shields can withstands Thor hammer and She-Hulk I don't see Superman getting through the barrier, also Superman will be getting weaker.

Originally posted by Rhiaggo

On that note, I would love to know how Mag will be able to not only replicate k-nite/red sun radiation (even a GL has problems doing this)

I already showed you in some scans. Magento was able to manipulate forms of energy outside the electromagnetic spectrum and he was weakened and dying at the time. He also did it to a being that was more complex than Superman. GLs aren't masters of magentism.

He also doesn't need to specifically create that but something like it.

Originally posted by Rhiaggo

and how he will do it before Supes will blitz him.

Mags was able to track Captain Marvel travelling at light speed and speedsters like Quicksilver and Northstar were nothing to him. Yes Superman is faster than both of them but if mags can easily deal with them he can cope with something alot faster.

Even if Mags isn't fast enough he will be able to take some of the shots because he has class 100 durability.