Originally posted by Mindset
He doesn't need to move his body to use his powers, though.
of course, but that scan isn't a showing that he's going to be able to perceive superman attacking him from several sides at incredible speeds.
Originally posted by Deadline
Beat me to it.He's also been able to react to Northstar and Quicksilver using his body and he did that with ease.
superman is far faster than both of those, though.
Originally posted by -Pr-
of course, but that scan isn't a showing that he's going to be able to perceive superman attacking him from several sides at incredible speeds.
No it doesn't but its going to help.
Originally posted by -Pr-
superman is far faster than both of those, though.
Of course he is but both those guys move at supersonic speed. Quicksilver stated that his speed was nothing to Mags which indicates he can cope with speeds far greater than Quicksilver. Quicksilver does actually have Flash lvl feats.
Magneto's reactions are superhuman, but they're nowhere close to SM's. However, he has shields and AoE attacks to counter the superspeed and stay in the fight. they do not mean he will necessarily though.
SM is much, much faster than the versions of QS and Northstar (at the speed he was going) Magneto handled so easily, but SM's average blitz isn't lightspeed or close to it either, so those showings are usable as evidence that magneto can handle a blitz in a forum fight.
Originally posted by Deadline
No it doesn't but its going to help.Of course he is but both those guys move at supersonic speed. Quicksilver stated that his speed was nothing to Mags which indicates he can cope with speeds far greater than Quicksilver. Quicksilver does actually have Flash lvl feats.
to the extent that he can beat superman?
most of quicksilver's feats aren't even approaching flash or even superman level. saying that his speed is nothing is all well and good, but that's a pretty big assumption when the gap between quicksilver and superman is that large.
Originally posted by -Pr-
moving faster than mags can react is not going to make a difference?
It depends on how we are looking at it. Mags has also flown at light speed so a bull rush shouldn't be a hassle to him.
Now reflexes, I would give superman the edge in that department since I have yet to see mags move his limbs anywhere close tp 2000 mps BUT mags has reacted to nightcrawlers teleportation which is instant movement so supes reflexes will be a problem in the beginning but only for a short period of time imo.
Originally posted by carver9
It depends on how we are looking at it. Mags has also flown at light speed so a bull rush shouldn't be a hassle to him.Now reflexes, I would give superman the edge in that department since I have yet to see mags move his limbs anywhere close tp 2000 mps BUT mags has reacted to nightcrawlers teleportation which is instant movement so supes reflexes will be a problem in the beginning but only for a short period of time imo.
his teleportation has been caught by cyclops.
also, 2000mps isn't his top speed.
Originally posted by 753
Magneto's reactions are superhuman, but they're nowhere close to SM's. However, he has shields and AoE attacks to counter the superspeed and stay in the fight. they do not mean he will necessarily though.SM is much, much faster than the versions of QS and Northstar (at the speed he was going) Magneto handled so easily, but SM's average blitz isn't lightspeed or close to it either, so those showings are usable as evidence that magneto can handle a blitz in a forum fight.
Ok you did kinda miss the point though.
Originally posted by Deadline
Of course he is but both those guys move at supersonic speed. Quicksilver stated that his speed was nothing to Mags which indicates he can cope with speeds far greater than Quicksilver. Quicksilver does actually have Flash lvl feats.
Originally posted by -Pr-
to the extent that he can beat superman?
Yes because he's not going to just rely on that. He has shields, draining, K-nite radiation attack etc.
Originally posted by -Pr-
most of quicksilver's feats aren't even approaching flash or even superman level. saying that his speed is nothing is all well and good, but that's a pretty big assumption when the gap between quicksilver and superman is that large.
Yea but thats only part of my arguement. Northstar was able to travel 100 miles in 5mins and he wasn't even trying.
Originally posted by -Pr-
to the extent that he can beat superman?most of quicksilver's feats aren't even approaching flash or even superman level. saying that his speed is nothing is all well and good, but that's a pretty big assumption when the gap between quicksilver and superman is that large.
Honestly, I believe quicksilver combat speed is far greater than supes. Supes flight speed is greater though.
Originally posted by Deadline
Ok you did kinda miss the point though.Yes because he's not going to just rely on that. He has shields, draining, K-nite radiation attack etc.
Yea but thats only part of my arguement. Northstar was able to travel 100 miles in 5mins and he wasn't even trying.
draining how?
he can't use kryptonite. he wouldn't even know how.
superman has travelled further and faster.
Originally posted by Mindset
It showing that he can perceive things moving at c.
perceiving and reacting are different things.
Originally posted by carver9
What's his best combat speed feat?
building a city in seconds, causing sonic booms with every punch, tracking lightspeed signals, blitzing doomsday/mongul/bizarro/imperiex probes. that's just off the top of my head.
hell, even john byrne superman could react in microseconds.
Originally posted by Badabing
😂 mmmGood point. 😛
meh, i is bored anyway. damn women keeping me waiting.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaIf 2 was a reply to my post, then I think you need to slow down and read again.
There's so many idiotic arguments here, I don't even know where to start.(1). Magneto is not lightspeed. He has superhuman reaction time, but nowhere near lightspeed and mis-interpreting that scene doesn't change that.
(2).His reaction time isn't dependent on his body? What the ****?
If not, carry on.
Originally posted by -Pr-
draining how?he can't use kryptonite. he wouldn't even know how.
superman has travelled further and faster.
perceiving and reacting are different things.
building a city in seconds, causing sonic booms with every punch, tracking lightspeed signals, blitzing doomsday/mongul/bizarro/imperiex probes. that's just off the top of my head.
hell, even john byrne superman could react in microseconds.
meh, i is bored anyway. damn women keeping me waiting.
Quicksilver has over whelmed beings with his "combat" speed that has done evrything that you mentioned. While being in china with magneto, magento was pouring himself some coffee, quicksilver ran all the way from china, to new york, knocked on xavier door, wrote a note before xavier realized someone was knocking at the door, ran back to china before magneto finished pouring his coffee.
Quicksilver has also punched someone 50 times in one second.
That is why I am asking you, what's superman best combat speed feat. How many times can he punch someone in one second without us guessing?
Originally posted by The Nuul
Give her the Irish backhand.
i already did.
and yes, to what phil said. reflex is based on your body too.
Originally posted by carver9
Quicksilver has over whelmed beings with his "combat" speed that has done evrything that you mentioned. While being in china with magneto, magento was pouring himself some coffee, quicksilver ran all the way from china, to new york, knocked on xavier door, wrote a note before xavier realized someone was knocking at the door, ran back to china before magneto finished pouring his coffee.Quicksilver has also punched someone 50 times in one second.
That is why I am asking you, what's superman best combat speed feat. How many times can he punch someone in one second without us guessing?
that feat you just named was piss poor compared to superman, tbh. superman once went to south america, stopped a volcano i think it was, and was back beside lois in the next panel. mere seconds had passed.
my estimate, in a second? hundreds if not thousands. easily.
Originally posted by Philosophía
There's so many idiotic arguments here, I don't even know where to start.(1). Magneto is not lightspeed. He has superhuman reaction time, but nowhere near lightspeed and mis-interpreting that scene doesn't change that.
He was tracking Captain Marvel at lightspeed. I'm not sure what you want to call it but clearly it's not illogical to think that he could react to somebody charging at him at lightspeed.
Not sure if you're refering to me.
Originally posted by -Pr-
and yes, to what phil said. reflex is based on your body too.
I think MS's point is he doesn't use his body when he puts up his shields etc.