Originally posted by Deadline
He was tracking Captain Marvel at lightspeed. I'm not sure what you want to call it but clearly it's not illogical to think that he could react to somebody charging at him at lightspeed.Not sure if you're refering to me.
I think MS's point is he doesn't use his body when he puts up his shields etc.
his body still has to process the information. neural signals still have to be sent and processed.
Originally posted by DeadlineIt's somebody else's brain that uses the powers in order to create the shield? Go figure.
I think MS's point is he doesn't use his body when he puts up his shields etc.
Originally posted by DeadlineHis consciousness was riding 'magnetically alongside'. In short, it's the equivalent of me band taping a snail unto a speeding rocket and then think he'd blitz Manny Pacquiao.
He was tracking Captain Marvel at lightspeed. I'm not sure what you want to call it but clearly it's not illogical to think that he could react to somebody charging at him at lightspeed.
Originally posted by -Pr-
i already did.and yes, to what phil said. reflex is based on your body too.
that feat you just named was piss poor compared to superman, tbh. superman once went to south america, stopped a volcano i think it was, and was back beside lois in the next panel. mere seconds had passed.
my estimate, in a second? hundreds if not thousands. easily.
I agree with you on the reflex thing.
They sound pretty even to me since both happened in a second.
Besides your city building feat that happened in a bizzaro comic, what other feats do you have that proves he can punch someone a 100 times in a second?
Come on pr, you can't be serious about this. He never displayed anything close to punching someone 100 times in a seconds.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree with you on the reflex thing.They sound pretty even to me since both happened in a second.
Besides your city building feat that happened in a bizzaro comic, what other feats do you have that proves he can punch someone a 100 times in a second?
Come on pr, you can't be serious about this. He never displayed anything close to punching someone 100 times in a seconds.
except that superman did much more in a second than quicksilver did.
the city feat is canon, so it still counts.
he's shown more than enough speed to indicate that if he wanted to, he could. even the sonic boom one would count.
Originally posted by Starscream M
superman is in character...and fighting an energy fighter...it is very unlikely he starts off the battle blitzingalso, superman can be flash level fast...but he doesn't often display it. this gives mags plenty of time to put shields up.
he displays it when necessary.
Originally posted by Starscream MLogic dictates that's exactly what he would do in a non-PIS enviorment, considering he has general knowledge of what Magneto could do, and knows it could turn up very bad if he'd give him time to start messing with him.
superman is in character...and fighting an energy fighter...it is very unlikely he starts off the battle blitzing
Originally posted by Philosophíalogic is not applicable, its not what YOU would logically do given his powers and knowledge...it's what Kal El would do in that situation with those powers. And comic book characters rarely does what logic dictates.
Logic dictates that's exactly what he would do in a non-PIS enviorment, considering he has general knowledge of what Magneto could do, and knows it could turn up very bad if he'd give him time to start messing with him.
and Kal El has not shown a propensity to use speed...esp not against a speedster foe.
Originally posted by -Pr-
except that superman did much more in a second than quicksilver did.the city feat is canon, so it still counts.
he's shown more than enough speed to indicate that if he wanted to, he could. even the sonic boom one would count.
he displays it when necessary.
How did he stop the volcanoe, freeze breath it?
That's the thing, it is canon but don't forget, you all made the 3 time rule. That could have just been a high showing for supes kind of like wolverine out pacing and bliting speed demon.
That's the thing pr, we go by on-panel showings, not "what we think the character can do". That is why I am asking you, what is the highest supes has punched someone?
Originally posted by Starscream M
logic is not applicable, its not what YOU would logically do given his powers and knowledge...it's what Kal El would do in that situation with those powers. And comic book characters rarely does what logic dictates.and Kal El has not shown a propensity to use speed...esp not against a speedster foe.
Very true.
Originally posted by Starscream M
logic is not applicable, its not what YOU would logically do given his powers and knowledge...it's what Kal El would do in that situation with those powers. And comic book characters rarely does what logic dictates.and Kal El has not shown a propensity to use speed...esp not against a speedster foe.
logic is always applicable; it just has to be applied properly.
also, you're wrong about his speed.
Originally posted by Starscream M
how am I wrong?in his fights against foes without superspeed...how often has he used superspeed? give me a rough %
when physical attacks don't work, he uses speed. it's common sense, and should be common knowledge.
good luck finding a percentage of people superman has fought that he couldn't beat on physical prowess alone.
nice dodge btw.
Originally posted by -Pr-I didn't mean to dodge. I don't think logic is too useful in debating comic characters. rather, evidence is more useful.
when physical attacks don't work, he uses speed. it's common sense, and should be common knowledge.good luck finding a percentage of people superman has fought that he couldn't beat on physical prowess alone.
nice dodge btw.
I can't say, hey logically Thor would use Mjolnir to its full powers if he doesn't.
Originally posted by -Pr-
logic is always applicable; it just has to be applied properly.also, you're wrong about his speed.
I agree with you as well on this, I think superman would cover the distance pretty fast and I also believe that if magneto doesn't use his speed in a timely fashion, magneto would get blitzed and hit with 4 punches before he had any type of chance to do something.
But magneto is fast as well, not superman fast but fast enough to put up his shields and land some major attacks.