Thanos vs. Orion

Originally posted by King KAM
ive read the whole thing, and the fact is he does have super speed, but he never uses it in battle so forum rules say that he must actin character and its not part of his character to speed blitz, which wouldn work anyway.

Superman at anylevel is nowhere near thanos in strength, and in his fight with DS who also cant beat thanos, Starlin himself said that Thanos was made by him to be a DS superior, DS let orion win in the first place, and after the battle orion was winded showing that he can be fatigued.

game.set.match.

now excuse me...while i go DL some big butt pRoN!

Thanos and Darkseid are approximately on the same level

Originally posted by Kurash
Thanos and Darkseid are approximately on the same level

Thanos wins this. Stronger, more skilled, far more durable, and most of all, far more intelligent and tricky.

If standard equipment is included and Orion gets his motherbox, then that means Thanos gets his tech forcefield (which is part of his 3 layered forcefield) and his teleportation belt.

Orion is definitely faster, but Thanos has incredible accuracy and would still hit him.

ive read the whole thing, and the fact is he does have super speed, but he never uses it in battle so forum rules say that he must actin character and its not part of his character to speed blitz, which wouldn work anyway.

He was clearly using it during his Darkseid battle. He would have to use it the times he's fought a blood lusted Superman.

Superman at anylevel is nowhere near thanos in strength, and in his fight with DS who also cant beat thanos, Starlin himself said that Thanos was made by him to be a DS superior, DS let orion win in the first place, and after the battle orion was winded showing that he can be fatigued.

Right, Thanos' strength is so respected because he can overpower multiple top tiers, but when Superman does the same thing while powered up it doesn't count. Please, there are many canon forms of Superman who would stomp Thanos. Sundipped or Kismet empowered are both featwise out of Thanos's league.

Starlin says alot of things. Creator opinions are not a valid arguing technique.

Orion is definitely faster, but Thanos has incredible accuracy and would still hit him

What use is accuracy? In the time it takes Thanos to move his arm Orion could of hit him hundreads of times.

Thanos wins this, Orion may have a speed advantage, but its nothing Thanos handled before.
Thanos outclasses orion in every other catagory.

Originally posted by Priest
Thanos wins this, Orion may have a speed advantage, but its nothing Thanos handled before.
Thanos outclasses orion in every other catagory.

NOt that I dont' think won't take a slim majority, But ORion has been shwonfighting and stalemating the powerful DS. Orion, unlike Superman hasn't been badly written. He is above top tier in strength. SO what makes THanos outclass Orion by so much? Fanboyism? Some Stated Forum logic handbook that some of us aren't privey to?

Thanos

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Thanos

I agree. But Thanos certainly won't have an easy time of it.

Originally posted by King KAM
maybe before DS got de-powered and thanos got up graded twice, over the years darkseid has recieved 2 major downgrades, while thanos has recieved 2 major up grades, meaning if they were even, they definatley arent now

Darkseid has never been officially downgraded.

Thanos' only real power up was when he was ressurected by Death.

Strength, durability, and skill win this for Thanos.

no top tier hero can take thanos 1on1.

Originally posted by leonidas
no top tier hero can take thanos 1on1.

Orion is stronger than any top tier hero. He has Taken on DS. HE can take Thanos. He won't win the majority. But Orion is def stronger than Top tier.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Orion is stronger than any top tier hero. He has Taken on DS. HE can take Thanos. He won't win the majority. But Orion is def stronger than Top tier.

Maybe in some appearances he is above top tier, but not usually.

i'm sick of people pretending like thanos doesn't have superspeed. i have no idea from where people drew this conclusion. he fights people with superspeed on the regular, yet never has an issue with being too slow, and has even stopped a FTL bumrush by simply raising his hand.

thanos 9/10

Originally posted by Desaad
Maybe in some appearances he is above top tier, but not usually.

agreed. i'd go further and say he has POTENTIAL to be above top tier, but generally speaking, he is depicted as only top tier. imo, he and thor are about as closely matched as any 2 characters are in dc and marvel.

Originally posted by Desaad
Maybe in some appearances he is above top tier, but not usually.

thor fought zeus for months. didn't superman fight for 1000s of years with wonder woman at some point . . .?

Originally posted by leonidas
thor fought zeus for months. didn't superman fight for 1000s of years with wonder woman at some point . . .?

I'm actually just talking about Orion's Strength and being able to actually fight DS that long. Thor fighting Zeus may well have to do with Thor's Hammer and other abilities. I do believe zues said he could have won. Tho I could be mistaken. I was basically saying that YOu have to be above top tier to actually fight the non jobbing DS that he was when they fought.

Originally posted by manorastroman
i'm sick of people pretending like thanos doesn't have superspeed. i have no idea from where people drew this conclusion. he fights people with superspeed on the regular, yet never has an issue with being too slow, and has even stopped a FTL bumrush by simply raising his hand.

thanos 9/10

He stopped an FTL bumrush while he was in possession of the Gauntlet. Not the same.

His speed was nicely demonstrated against Gamora. That is to say, he was WOEFULLY inadequate to block her blows, or even hit her with fists or energy blasts.

He doesn't have super speed. Not even close. Its one of the few areas that I think Darkseid surpasses him in.

Originally posted by leonidas
agreed. i'd go further and say he has POTENTIAL to be above top tier, but generally speaking, he is depicted as only top tier. imo, he and thor are about as closely matched as any 2 characters are in dc and marvel.

Agreed. His meeting with Infinity Man, as well as pretty constant talk, says that he has great, untapped power.

And there is the fact that, by virtually any writer, he has a "true form" which is inherently different from the mere physical "flesh" suit he wears.

But in his every day appearance, he is about Superman level IMHO. Sometimes below it, sometimes above.

Agreed about Thor as well.