odin and zeus v molecule man

No it would be far from that. The difference being Odin and zeus are several millenia old and have thousands of years combat experience. Namor and Wonderman do not. Another difference being that odin and zeus wield abilties that MM's conventional abilities arent very effective against therefore negating his advantage in power. Again Namor and Wonderman DO NOT.

Why can't you just accept that MM is way too powerful than Odin and Zeus together. It might be close coz MM is kinda ineffective some times but they would be lose!

<<It'd be like Namor and Wonder Man against Black Bolt; good fight and all but in the end they'd still lose.>>

sounds like a match that should be posted . . . and while i'm not sure i agree with the above, i do agree with the sentiment - MM in a close - and obviously very debatable - one.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
No it would be far from that. The difference being Odin and zeus are several millenia old and have thousands of years combat experience. Namor and Wonderman do not. Another difference being that odin and zeus wield abilties that MM's conventional abilities arent very effective against therefore negating his advantage in power. Again Namor and Wonderman DO NOT.

Power is power. Galactus was only confused about Agamotto and his realm; however, they still stalemated in their fight. Cosmic or mystical, power is power. Anything a mystical artifact can do, cosmic cubes can do as well. Power is power. When you get down to it, they both can do almost the same thing. However, Molecule Man is just more powerful than either. Thanos' lacked the power and versatility against Odin, it wasn't because mystics are more powerful than cosmic; Thanos outright pointed this out.

And experience isn't everything, if they're more powerful than you, than that's that.

"Why can't you just accept that MM is way too powerful than Odin and Zeus together"

For the simple reason that their power and proficiency in using the mystical arts negates MM's power advantage. Get that into your head. He's clearly below the abstract beings and he's above a single skyfather. Put two of the most powerful skyfathers 2gether and u hav a MM man whupping machine.

Power is power i agree with you. But mystical power is unconventional and it defies real world physics. Galactus is more powerful than Agamotto but due to his opponents usage of mystical energies his power advantage was negated. With enough power then you could overcome this disadvantage for sure. But owen has clearly been positioned between the likes of odin and zeus and the abstracts. Hes not so high above them that collectively they couldnt take him down. Especially when using mystical means which somewhat negate owens power advantage

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Power is power i agree with you. But mystical power is unconventional and it defies real world physics. Galactus is more powerful than Agamotto but due to his opponents usage of mystical energies his power advantage was negated

? Where did you get the idea that Galactus is far more powerful than Agamotto? Agamotto rules over an entire cosmos like his other allies Oshtur and Hoggoth. He didn't even care for Eternity's state; his realm is not connected with the regular universe that is Eternity. He even told Galactus off, refering to Galactus as a little man onced named Galan.

And that comic never stated Galactus as anymore powerful than Agamotto nor did it say anything about Agamotto stalemating Galactus due to mystic powers being advantages over cosmic.

Strange only mentioned that Galactus was overestimating his might, and fooled by Agamotto's worm appearance. He never said anything regard mystical over cosmic.

The fact that Galactus could go into Agamottos realm and force a stalemate suggests to most people that in a neutral realm agamotto would get his wormy ass owned. If he has his own realm not connected with eternitys then why would he care for his status. It is well known that conventional powers arent anywhere near as effective against mystical powers as they are against other standard enrgies. Galactus has said he despises mystical energies because he isnt as effective against them. For evidence check out his fight with the guardians of the galaxy when their feline sorcerer unleashes the crimson bands of cytorrak on him.

Galactus is restrained and in great difficulty. He doesnt get out of the bother himself. One of the elders of the u appears who is the sorcerers mentor andorders him to stop the spell because it is so powerful and dangerous in the wrong hands

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[B]The fact that Galactus could go into Agamottos realm and force a stalemate suggests to most people that in a neutral realm agamotto would get his wormy ass owned.

So much for mystics have an advantage over cosmics.

If he has his own realm not connected with eternitys then why would he care for his status.

What status are you refering to? He didn't care about the regular universe; that's why he didn't want to allow Galactus and Strange to use his eye of Agamotto to find the Magus.

It is well known that conventional powers arent anywhere near as effective against mystical powers as they are against other standard enrgies. Galactus has said he despises mystical energies because he isnt as effective against them. For evidence check out his fight with the guardians of the galaxy when their feline sorcerer unleashes the crimson bands of cytorrak on him.

?That proves what? The Crimson Bands Of Cyttorak are mystical containment from Cyttorak who also has it's own cosmos. Galactus getting binded by the band only proves that the bands are that strong. How many people have actually broken that bands, while to sorccerer his full concentration on the spell?