How the hell am I supposed to keep up with YOUR arguement if you keep jumping around?
First you tell me that Thanos chose Warlock because he was the bigger powerhouse. Then you just discredited yourself by saying "He got captured period" which doesn't support your theory of Warlock being stronger than Silver Surfer in any way shape or form.
What makes me think Surfer could best Warlock?
Silver Surfer has the power cosmic. He can blow up planets. Silver Surfer has taken much much more abuse than Warlock....and NEVER DIED. Warlock died and had to be reincarnated.
Aside from that...when I made my post I had 2 people agree with me right off the bat. I don't see anyone supporting the idea that Warlock would beat Surfer WITHOUT THE GEM.
Magus is associated with Adam Warlock. He would probably get involved even without the sudden appearance of Thanos asking for his aid. Not every powerhouse gets involved in a series. In each comic line there tends to be an ongoing worldwide or universal threat and only that particular group(s) gets involved. Realistically, you would figure everyone would have a concern, but it just doesn't work that way. Otherwise, there would be just one comic called Marvel or DC. How did he defeat Mephisto? It must be more wit than of brute strength.
I ain't jumping around.
Because he got captured means what???
You mean to tell me that Magus if he wanted to couldn't take SS down???
C'mon man you're being ridiculous. Read your comix again if you don't understand who or what the Magus is about.
Again Link because the guy got killed and reicarnated so he can't beat SS right??? Come off it dude, please!!!
If Magus is a mirror image of Warlock, what makes you think that the real deal can't whip SS's ass? The only reason you will never see Warlock's true powers are because Warlock has tremendous discipline and self control. WHat makes SS tick would never make Adam flinch. Therefore there is no reason for him to go all out. Why can't Warlock perform the same feats? You can't say that because as a character that's not what he does. It's like questioning THE WATCHER's power. They are infinetly powerful rivaling even Galactus, but you just have to know that you will probably never see them do awesome things because it's not part of their character.
No one can defeat Mephisto with brute strength. C'mon man don't insult me like that. I am more knowledgeable than that.
He bested him being that he was in his realm., he was able to not be influenced by his powers on a soul/spiritual level.
Originally posted by LordFear
I ain't jumping around.
Because he got captured means what???
You mean to tell me that Magus if he wanted to couldn't take SS down???
C'mon man you're being ridiculous. Read your comix again if you don't understand who or what the Magus is about.Again Link because the guy got killed and reicarnated so he can't beat SS right??? Come off it dude, please!!!
If Magus is a mirror image of Warlock, what makes you think that the real deal can't whip SS's ass? The only reason you will never see Warlock's true powers are because Warlock has tremendous discipline and self control. WHat makes SS tick would never make Adam flinch. Therefore there is no reason for him to go all out. Why can't Warlock perform the same feats? You can't say that because as a character that's not what he does. It's like questioning THE WATCHER's power. They are infinetly powerful rivaling even Galactus, but you just have to know that you will probably never see them do awesome things because it's not part of their character.No one can defeat Mephisto with brute strength. C'mon man don't insult me like that. I am more knowledgeable than that.
He bested him being that he was in his realm., he was able to not be influenced by his powers on a soul/spiritual level.
No I don't mean to tell you that Silver Surfer could beat the Magus and honestly I don't see how you could even get that out of the arguement I put forth.
Anyone. Be it Thanos, Warlock, or Silver Surfer could NOT take Magus. THAT is why they had to have a plan in the first place. The battle with Magus was about wits...not about strength.
You need to come off it and read my entire sentence. I said that Silver Surfer has taken worst beatings that Adam Warlock and still survived. Do the simple math....Silver Surfer is more durable than Warlock. A shot that could kill Warlock, in all probability, would not kill Silver Surfer.
Magus is not a mirror image of Adam Warlock, if he was a mirror image then the two would have fought eachother one on one without the aid of the Infinity Watch. If Magus was Adam Warlock's mirror image then Warlock would have fought and stalemated Magus instead of being imprisoned.
Why can't Warlock perform the same feats? Because he doesn't have the power cosmic period.
Don't compare Uatu to Galactcus...you're making yourself look foolish now.
I never said to you that he fought SS to a standstill. NEVER!!!
rEAD the thread again if need be before jumping on the bandwagon, ok??
Second. I need to give you issue to were Warlock and Thanos have fought? Are you kidding me? I am not gonna waste my time doing that.
You believe whatever the hell you want,. I know what I read when I was like ten years old. I am not gonnna spend time just to prove a point like this. Those two have had too much history and encounters for you to even question it but whatever!!!
Third think whatever you want this is a free country.
People plz just stop jumping on the SS, Spiderman fanboy wave that seems to have enchanted this forum ever since I have been a member.
Originally posted by LordFear
I never said to you that he fought SS to a standstill. NEVER!!!
rEAD the thread again if need be before jumping on the bandwagon, ok??Second. I need to give you issue to were Warlock and Thanos have fought? Are you kidding me? I am not gonna waste my time doing that.
You believe whatever the hell you want,. I know what I read when I was like ten years old. I am not gonnna spend time just to prove a point like this. Those two have had too much history and encounters for you to even question it but whatever!!!
Third think whatever you want this is a free country.
People plz just stop jumping on the SS, Spiderman fanboy wave that seems to have enchanted this forum ever since I have been a member.
I hate spider-man and SS, but they are both extremely skilled and powerful characters.
Originally posted by LordFear
No one can defeat Mephisto with brute strength. C'mon man don't insult me like that. I am more knowledgeable than that.
He bested him being that he was in his realm., he was able to not be influenced by his powers on a soul/spiritual level.
If based on that regard to classify Adam Warlock winning over Mephisto, Daredevil has done the same thing.
Also, there is no need to get hostile and starting to call people who disagree with you fanboys.
<<Intelligence: Above Normal
Strength: Superhuman Class 10, Superhuman Class 50 when enhanced by cosmic energy
Speed: SuperHuman
Endurance: Enhanced Human
Durability: Metahuman
Agility: Enhanced Human
Reflexes: Enhanced Human
Fighting skills: Adam Warlock's fighting skills were not taught to him. He developed them on his own while fighting enemies. He has developed fighting skills to rival the best Martial Artist
Special Skills and Abilities: Vast Knowledge of Strategy, and the Occult. Adam Warlock has the ability to fly. He is outside the realm of Chaos and Order so therefor he knows the Universe as no other mortal. he has demonstrated superhuman physical powers with his new abilities to see a person's aura and touch / go into their soul.
Superhuman Physical Powers: Besides the above listed attributes, Adam Warlock has none.
Superhuman Mental Powers: Adam Warlock has demonstrated no psionic abilities. But he seems to have a defense to psionic attacks. And has a firm grasp on reality
Special Limitations: Getting too insane can turn him into the Magus
Source of Superhuman Powers: Adam Warlock's power were gained by the means of his birth. The scientists endowed him with powers so that he could be the perfect human. He also gains extra power from his Soul Gem.
Paraphernalia
Personal Weaponry: Soul Gem, and his Cane or Staff which he sometimes uses to project his spiritual energy. With the Soul Gem Warlock can steal souls, and also use a Karmic Blast to knock his opponent out>>
how would he beat SS again? his karmic blasts are no where near strong enough. his soul gem has been resisted in the past. aside for possibly the soul gem (which i believe SS could withstand) SS CLEARLY outclasses AW in every conceiveable way. no way AW takes out SS.
sometimes i think SS gets a bit too much luv here as well, but he is more powerful than AW.
I don't have an issue number for you, but at the end of the second "Thanos Against Everybody War," Thanos was near victory, and Warlock had taken his own life to prevent his transformation into the Magus. When all seemed lost, Spider-Man picked up the Soul-Gem and released Warlock's spirit. Seething with cosmic energy, Adam turned Thanos to stone. Apart from Mar-Vell's visions from his deathbed, this was the last we saw of Thanos until Death ressurected him to kill half of all life in the (many years later) Silver Surfer arc that led directly into the Infinity Gauntlet.
The '70s Magus that-might-have-been was more physically powerful than the Magus that incarnated in Infinity War, having spent millenia coccoonned in the In-Betweener's realm. The more modern Magus is "just" Adam's evil twin.
In terms of raw might, the Surfer should win. With Adam however, it seldom comes down to raw might.