Silver Surfer vs Adam Warlock

Originally posted by Biel_Wunde
Pre-Annihilation Adam Warlock was the greatest stratigic mind in Marvel. Warlock has beaten Thanos ever-time they encountered (Marvel 2-in-1 Annual #2, the whole Infinity series), not because he out-powered him, but because he out-manuvored him. Hell Warlock even gave him the Reality Gem to protect as part the Infinity Watch. You think Warlock would do that if he didn't think he could bring Thanos down?!?

If you go back and read Annihilation when moon-dragon find Warlock, and awakens him, it's too early. He wasn't fully recovered. His powers were off and his mind wasn't healed. This was Marvels way or nerfing him so he would fit on the Guardians of the Galaxy. Without that nerf, he's running that team inside two hours.

Adam Warlock (at full power) is the most dangerous person in the Marvel universe. Not Thanos. Also if you want to talk strength, Warlock, without the Soul Gem, inside Soul World, pwned Drax one on one (SS #47). It has been eluded to multiple times that Warlock is just as powerful as the Magus, but holds back so he doesn't go over the edge.

Hell we're talking about a guy who went into the future to kill himself to prevent the Magus from happening (which was recently undone in the GotG... the lost timeline Warlock tied Reality to stop the Cancerverse)... read that again, the guy tied two realities together, by himself without the soul-gem... Yeah he Pwn's the Surfer hands down!

Surfer ftw

lol

looking back at those early posts, it would seem i was incorrect. warlock, in his confrontations with norrin, almost always seemed to have the upper hand despite what i still think is a disparity in powers. aw is just one of those characters who sort of did things just because he was cool enough to pull them off, and he def seemed to have ss's number for whatever reason. after seeing their interactions (something i had NOT seen when i first posted) i'd change my vote and go with warlock here.

Originally posted by leonidas
for all this AW will win talk, i've yet to hear one AW person give an explanation as to how exactly AW would take him down. karmic blast? in the infinity watch they didn't bother hercules. i say again, herc was whooping him. check it out if you have the issue. suck SS soul? the soul gem has been resisted in the past by powerful enough foes (ie count abyss) and SS's soul is one of the brightest, noblest in the MU - as quoted by mephisto. not to mention the fact i doubt highly whether AW would even resort to trying such a desperate act. and no one can think he would take SS down by fighting him hand to hand. SS's strength could be expanded well beyond AW's. he has no psionic abilities (see his bio). SS's abilities are described as beyond comprehension. AW is superhuman and 'meta' human - below superhuman. so . . . please give me a believeable scenario where AW takes him down.

The energy Adam hit Herc with was from his staff and it was yellow. The Karmic blast from his soul gem is green and he missed Hercules who sidestepped it.

Originally posted by olympian
Here is more:

Hercules goes against Warlock, after the infinity Watch goes down. One of the two loses ever in the rep of Warlock. (Herk seems in mad rage).

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8771/madherk6wh.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/9459/madherk14ge.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4881/madherk20rk.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/5904/madherk39pd.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4315/madherk49sg.jpg

Thats it for now. Ill see if i can arrange more.

Originally posted by Nietzschean
I cant believe I have to find your post from almost a decade ago to correct you once more but Hercules never took a Karmic Blast. He dodged it.

The energy Adam hit Herc with was from his staff and it was yellow. The Karmic blast from his soul gem is green and he missed Hercules who sidestepped it.

lol

implying that somehow, somewhere in the intervening time you've 'corrected' me?

in any event, you appear to be right in this case. 👆

^ Get mad, leonidas! excellent

Adam worlock uses his gem and steals his tasty soul and takes sadistic pleasure in tormenting his soul forever.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Get mad, leonidas! excellent

i've missed you.....

Originally posted by leonidas
lol

implying that somehow, somewhere in the intervening time you've 'corrected' me?

in any event, you appear to be right in this case. 👆

Originally posted by Nietzschean
This is actually the third time I have posted the scans and directed them toward you. It was just on a different account a year or two ago. I understand if you don't remember. 😉

ah. could be. don't recall someone catching that and i haven't brought that fight up in a long time. anyway, i stand corrected. 😉

Originally posted by leonidas
i've missed you.....

^ translation: i missed you too....

AW is Yellowish-Orange. The same color of many types of "cheese". This is a very telling detail, due to the fact that he is a "cheesie" character.

It is also the same color as Homer Simpson.

So, he has gone into the future to murder himself. Haven't we ALL done that at one time or another?!

And, for the record, his Karmic Blast is extremely SLOOOOOOOWWW. It is a FACT that the blast basically oozes out of that sissy gem.

I rest my case.

Norin ftw.

If he has the Soul Gem I think Adam takes it

I think the Surfer has overcome soul gem attacks. From Thanos and the Supreme Intelligence. Has found his way out of Soul World and has taken possession of the gem, from the Supreme Intelligence.