Jedi Master Yoda vs. ROTS Anakin

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
What's even worse than your grammar, is your lack of comprehension.

Actually your comprehension of simple sarcasm is almost non-existent.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Now before you even think about trying to reply to me, figure out the difference between what I said and what you said.

Actually its you whose not done much thinking here for someone who seems to be obsessed with correct grammar, yet hardly understands simple sarcasm.

Let me explain it to you, assuming its not completely beyond your comprehension.

Youve said people would take me more serious if i took the time to use proper grammar. That being such an irrelevant point and nothing to do with why people were arguing with me i replied back to you SARCASTICALLY and said yeah its the improper grammar why im not taken seriously.

Im going to let you take a good long think about that, and then you can explain to me in PERFECT ENGLISH why you fail to grasp very simple and obvious sarcasm. Think before you reply.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Actually your comprehension of simple sarcasm is almost non-existent.

Actually its you whose not done much thinking here for someone who seems to be obsessed with correct grammar, yet hardly understands simple sarcasm.

Let me explain it to you, assuming its not completely beyond your comprehension.

Youve said people would take me more serious if i took the time to use proper grammar. That being such an irrelevant point and nothing to do with why people were arguing with me i replied back to you SARCASTICALLY and said yeah its the improper grammar why im not taken seriously.

Im going to let you take a good long think about that, and then you can explain to me in PERFECT ENGLISH why you fail to grasp very simple and obvious sarcasm. Think before you reply.

So, you apparently love to say the exact things back to me, that I said to you. Okay, lets continue this fun cycle then, I'll have to say "Now think more before you next reply". Then you are going to say "No, you think more before you reply". Now we have to keep this going until one of us gets tired of it.

Firstly, I wasn't even talking to you when I said that, so even though it was an 'irrelevant' point, you still managed to make a scene and totally blow it out of proportion. Secondly, your use of sarcasm here was entirely misplaced and poorly executed. And lastly, somewhere along the line you actually managed to think that I am obsessed with grammar and spelling, I who doesn't even speak english and I who butcher the language every so often. You've just proven my point that you still do not get me by thinking that I love 'perfect English'.

By the way, if you respond, I'd like you to be coherent and not repeat the same thing more than twice, please. Oh yeah, and remember: THINK BEFORE YOU REPLY.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
So, you apparently love to say the exact things back to me, that I said to you. Okay, lets continue this fun cycle then,

Its a way of showing you how irratating your points are. You obviously dnt get that, again showing how you like to point out others grammatic errors yet you yourself dnt get simple and obvious hints.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
I'll have to say "Now think more before you next reply". Then you are going to say "No, you think more before you reply". Now we have to keep this going until one of us gets tired of it.

Until you get the point, and stop being so unbelievably petty and irratable. Which doesnt look like is happening anytime soon.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Firstly, I wasn't even talking to you when I said that, so even though it was an 'irrelevant' point, you still managed to make a scene and totally blow it out of proportion. .

But you were talking about me, and therfore could reasonably expect a response on the subject from me.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Secondly, your use of sarcasm here was entirely misplaced and poorly executed. .

Not really. It was very typical sarcasm. Get a new english teacher. Tell him to stop teaching you english from the dictionary and give you a lesson on how people actually talk.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
And lastly, somewhere along the line you actually managed to think that I am obsessed with grammar and spelling, I who doesn't even speak english and I who butcher the language every so often. You've just proven my point that you still do not get me by thinking that I love 'perfect English'..

You are very obsessed with grammar and spelling. Just a few posts back i spelt "i'll" as "ill". I missed out an apostrophe and you pointed that out. Whilst anyone reading the sentence would have known what i was saying and would have noticed themselves that "ill" meant "i'll", but you were the only one to point that out. I would say thats quite obsessive.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
By the way, if you respond, I'd like you to be coherent and not repeat the same thing more than twice, please. Oh yeah, and remember: THINK BEFORE YOU REPLY.

Oh is that what YOU WOULD LIKE.. I think the "Queen's" English has got to your head.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Its a way of showing you how irratating your points are. You obviously dnt get that, again showing how you like to point out others grammatic errors yet you yourself dnt get simple and obvious hints.

My points? I'm not making any points... I'm actually just having fun with you because you're so easy and quickly on your feet.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Until you get the point, and stop being so unbeleivably petty and irratable. Which doesnt look like is happening anytime soon.

Don't pretend like we're actually arguing about anything here. If you do want to argue about something like 'why use proper grammar?' Then just let me know and I'll actually start explaining why.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
But you were talking about me, and therfore could reasonably expect a response on the subject from me.

But you considered it irrelevant... Why then did you make such a big deal out of it?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Not really. It was very typical sarcasm. Get a new english teacher. Tell him to stop teaching you english from the dictionary and give you a lesson on how people actually talk.

It's actually pretty weird that your teacher teaches you how to use sarcasm instead of teaching you how to write properly... because you know, it's more important and that's what you need for a forum like this.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You are very obsessed with grammar and spelling. Just a few posts back i spelt "i'll" as "ill". I missed out an apostrophe and you pointed that out. Whilst anyone reading the sentece would have known what i was saying and would have noticed themselves that "ill" meant "i'll", but you were the only one to point that out. I would say thats quite obsessive.

If I were obsessive, I'd be pointing out every mistake you'd make and not just use that one example for ironic purposes. But yeah, now the question is, why would you spell ill, while you could just type I'll? This is exactly what I mean with 'think about what you type'. I don't really care though if you think I'm obsessed with grammar, because you're pretty much the only one who thinks so.

I'm actually just having fun with you because you're so easy and quickly on your feet.

While you are so easy and quick to your knees.

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It's actually pretty weird that your teacher teaches you how to use sarcasm instead of teaching you how to write properly... because you know, it's more important and that's what you need for a forum like this.

Why wit is vital:

sarcasm
n.

1. A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
2. A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
3. The use of sarcasm. See Synonyms at wit1.

wit
–noun
1. the keen perception and cleverly apt expression of those connections between ideas that awaken amusement and pleasure.
2. speech or writing showing such perception and expression.
3. a person having or noted for such perception and expression.
4. understanding, intelligence, or sagacity; astuteness.

While there is a disconnect between the words and the real state of affairs, the irony lacks a semblance of humor or wit.

Thus, the excuse of sarcasm for a merely loaded NO! falls flat. (Pet peeve of mine, equal on par with declaring things "random" that are not "made, or occurring without definite aim, reason, or pattern." thank you for your time.)

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Your arguements are getting annoying, however. Gideon has crushed all your points "in one swift stroke". And instead of getting to Gideon's points, you accuse him of rambling on, then you turn around and complain when someone makes those kinda remarks about you. I agree with Lord Lucien. I think you do not like the fact that your ego has been attacked.

As of now, I'm ending the debate with you...

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Ungh! Everybody! Ugh! Do! Me!

lol

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
lol

Originally posted by mattatom
I wish I was Red.

That's... great?

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
That's... great?

thx

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
thx

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
sarcasm
n.

1. A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
2. A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
3. The use of sarcasm. See Synonyms at wit1.

I do not entirely agree with this. I'm talking about the 'intented to wound' and 'to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule' part. I often use sarcasm but most of the times, I do not use it for this reason. Sarcasm is not always used to make people feel bad.

I agree with almost everything else you said though, sarcasm with the absence of wit and a bit of irony is just bland crap.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Take Sidious vs Yoda for example. When Sidious struck Yoda with FL, it knocked Yoda OUT. It took Yoda almost a minute to recover from the attack. When Yoda used a FP on Sidious, all it did was send Sidious flying across the room over a chair. It took Sidious about 3 seconds to recover, and even tried to make his exit. Like Gideon said, it's a no brainer force lightning>force push. Force lightning is a deadlier attack.

So a nightsister's FL is more lethal than any attack from Mace then just because its FL??? No of course not. FL isnt just automatically more powerful than any other Force attack just because it is FL. In fact i believe FL is used more for torture than a KO.. and when Dooku does KO people with it hes most likely combining it with other Force attacks.

In the AOTC novel in the description of when he knocks Anakin, it was a combination of FL with a Force push.

As for Yoda and Sidious, I actually think Sidious was slightly more powerful as of ROTS.. but even if thats not true you forgot to account for the fact that Yoda is much smaller and physically weaker, which is probably why he ended up worse at the end of the Force Fight.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
You are sounding desperate and arguing with canon. You expect me to explain to you why Mace did something in one story and not the other. I can ask the same question about Vader: Why didn't he use his awesome TK skills displayed in TFU on the vengeful bounty hunter (Tark) during their fight? Should we disregard Vader's feats in the force unleashed?

Have you even read anything i said?? I said a few posts back ill accept Mace's toon feats as canon for argument sakes. However you and Gideon have throughout this debate argued with canon yourselves, by simply refusing to accept that Dooku dealt with Bulq and Ventress with FAR FAR more ease than Mace did due to simply having some superior skills to Mace. You guys are completely in denial there. And your being hypocrytical by saying im the one who keeps denying canon. No actually thats you!

You have not addressed any of my points about how powerful Padawan Anakin was in that same mini toon. Just rasied his hand and takes down 20 battledroids surrounding him, which of course makes him better than Dooku because Dooku was captured by pirates(thats the argument of Gideons i was referring to when i accused him of being desperate in his arguments by constantly bringing up the pirates issue.)
And by the way Vader has constantly displayed Great TK feats throughout the saga.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I try not to make too big of a deal on grammar and spelling, because I'm not the best at it myself. As long as you try and I can understand what you are saying.?

Thank GOD! someone realises this isnt an assignment!

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Your arguements are getting annoying, however. Gideon has crushed all your points "in one swift stroke"..?

Really? wow i must have missed that part.. Was that the same swift stroke when he said that was his last post! Iv answered most of those points.. And he made that his last post because they wernt his best arguments and he knew it wuldnt be difficult for me to counter them.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
And instead of getting to Gideon's points, you accuse him of rambling on, then you turn around and complain when someone makes those kinda remarks about you. I agree with Lord Lucien. I think you do not like the fact that your ego has been attacked.

Surely if you and Gideon and Lucien had better points, there would have been no need to attack me personally. As for my ego If you read some earlier threads iv debated on, iv conceded on certain things when i beleived the other person to have better points. Thats because im open minded. However i dnt EVER remember Gideon or Lucien(Gideon especially) EVER conceding on anything.. Instead they will just make a speech on how this person is not worth debating, and disappear. Sound familiar?

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
As of now, I'm ending the debate with you...

What a surprise! Thanks for not actually addressing 99% of the points i made and instead having a go at me(for no reason except you dnt like points i made) and running off. Gideon and Lucien have taught you well!

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
*points enthusiastically* Ungh! Everybody! Ugh! Do! This!

Yeah dnt debate that guy! Some people might see hes actually made some good points and that would make us look seriosuly Moronic!

Originally posted by Slash_KMC

If I were obsessive, I'd be pointing out every mistake you'd make and not just use that one example for ironic purposes. But yeah, now the question is, why would you spell ill, while you could just type I'll? This is exactly what I mean with 'think about what you type'.

This is a Star Wars FORUM you NERD! Maybe You can sit there all day long and "think about what your typing", but i actually have work to do, and will spend time on "Thinking about what im writing" when im doing something important.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
This is a Star Wars FORUM you NERD! Maybe You can sit there all day long and "think about what your typing", but i actually have work to do, and will spend time on "Thinking about what im writing" when im doing something important.

Oh, nerd? That's hardcore namecalling right there.

If you're so busy with work, why the hell are you spending all that precious time on here?

Yeah seriously. The guy popped out a triple post right there, took 16 minutes of precious work time.

This is what happens when egos are bruised. Also, when tweenagers [are] pretend to be adults.

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It's usually teenagers that have the big egos too. So whenever someone gets all offended on a Star Wars forum AND gets all defensive, you know they're just kids.