Given how laughably pathetic his powers were when he was using a basic application of telekinesis with the intention to protect others (AOTC - end of his fight against Dooku when he attempts to prevent a pillar from crushing Anakin and Obi-Wan), I'd imagine that granting Yoda with a greater inclination to use the Force destructively would do little in bringing him anywhere near the most powerful Jedi/Sith in the mythos.
Given how laughably pathetic his powers were when he was using a basic application of telekinesis with the intention to protect others (AOTC - end of his fight against Dooku when he attempts to prevent a pillar from crushing Anakin and Obi-Wan), I'd imagine that granting Yoda with a greater inclination to use the Force destructively would do little in bringing him anywhere near the most powerful Jedi/Sith in the mythos.
Go search for that Link in the Yoda thread in the EU thread, find the Clone Wars link I posted, then say how much he sucks at Force based combat.
Originally posted by The ContactXD
Given how laughably pathetic his powers were when he was using a basic application of telekinesis with the intention to protect others (AOTC - end of his fight against Dooku when he attempts to prevent a pillar from crushing Anakin and Obi-Wan), I'd imagine that granting Yoda with a greater inclination to use the Force destructively would do little in bringing him anywhere near the most powerful Jedi/Sith in the mythos.
I doubt you could get any FARTHER than what you said......
Take the "Greatest foe the darkness has ever known" quote
The fact that he is the Grand Master of the Jedi and some other tile i forgot that Windu gave to him x.x
The fact that he had 900 years to reach his power
The fact that he fought Sidious to a standstill, and if he wasnt in the Senate chamber he could have possibly won
The fact that he mastered evry form, and he mastered Ataru to its highest peak
An many other facts supporting how powerful he is
Yoda, though the pinnacle of the Jedi order, would lose in this match up. This would happen basically because of Anakin's youth and his relentless saber style. Yoda uses Ataru, which as we have seen in TPM Qui-Gon tires its user quicky, this taken into account Yoda's very advanced age and Anakin using Djem So to continually overpower and overwhelm Yoda plus Anakin's limitless energy supply via his massive force potential and the fact that he only gets stronger the longer the fight lasts only leads to an Anakin win.
Yoda would win though if it was a pure force battle, however he would lose an all out battle with anakin as Yoda only uses the Force in battle to augment his age related weaknesses so that would not really help in this situation.
Originally posted by Pwned
XDI doubt you could get any FARTHER than what you said......
Take the "Greatest foe the darkness has ever known" quote
The fact that he is the Grand Master of the Jedi and some other tile i forgot that Windu gave to him x.x
The fact that he had 900 years to reach his power
The fact that he fought Sidious to a standstill, and if he wasnt in the Senate chamber he could have possibly won
The fact that he mastered evry form... [b]exept Juyo/Vaapad
, and he mastered Ataru to its highest peakAn many other facts supporting how powerful he is [/B]
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Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
Its surprising to see people think Anakin can beat Yoda. Sure, maybe he could get a win every now and then, but Yoda wins 9/10.
It shoudn't be that surprising, Anakin has the most Force potential ever and the ROTS Anakin whenever he was in a fight he would pretty much always use Force rage which is like basically tapping into his raw Force power(?). Plus, as i said Ataru tires the user especially one as old as Yoda and the fact that Anakin only gets stronger the longer the fight lasts. It all leads to an Anakin win
Originally posted by Master_Galen
It shoudn't be that surprising, Anakin has the most Force potential ever and the ROTS Anakin whenever he was in a fight he would pretty much always use Force rage which is like basically tapping into his raw Force power(?). Plus, as i said Ataru tires the user especially one as old as Yoda and the fact that Anakin only gets stronger the longer the fight lasts. It all leads to an Anakin win
Do you have any source to provide an example where it leads people to believe Yoda's age is a hinderance to him? Or maybe something that would indicate that Anakin will always make clear-headed decisions, just like the Mustafar fight? Perhaps some sort of A>B>C thing where it shows Galan Marek beating Vader, and then using his best effort against Sidious which has little to no effect. The same Sidious that was basically equal to Yoda.
Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
Do you have any source to provide an example where it leads people to believe Yoda's age is a hinderance to him? Or maybe something that would indicate that Anakin will always make clear-headed decisions, just like the Mustafar fight? Perhaps some sort of A>B>C thing where it shows Galan Marek beating Vader, and then using his best effort against Sidious which has little to no effect. The same Sidious that was basically equal to Yoda.
The fact that Qui-gon was a master of Ataru and tired quite quicky during his duel against Darth Maul depite being only 60 years old leads me to believe that it must have hindered Yoda, being almost 900 years old, to a degree. Plus in the movies, when he is not fighting Yoda appears to walk slowly with the aid of a walking stick and in AOTC just before he fought Dooku he appeared to limp or walk very slowly.
Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
Do you have any source to provide an example where it leads people to believe Yoda's age is a hinderance to him? Or maybe something that would indicate that Anakin will always make clear-headed decisions, just like the Mustafar fight? Perhaps some sort of A>B>C thing where it shows Galan Marek beating Vader, and then using his best effort against Sidious which has little to no effect. The same Sidious that was basically equal to Yoda.
The fact that Qui-gon was a master of Ataru and tired quite quicky during his duel against Darth Maul despite being only 60 years old leads me to believe that it must have hindered Yoda, being almost 900 years old, to a degree. Plus in the movies, when he is not fighting Yoda appears to walk slowly and in AOTC just before he fought Dooku he appeared to limp or walk very slowly.
Originally posted by Master_Galen
The fact that Qui-gon was a master of Ataru and tired quite quicky during his duel against Darth Maul despite being only 60 years old leads me to believe that it must have hindered Yoda, being almost 900 years old, to a degree.
Isn't there lots of instances that lead us to believe that the older a person gets the more powerful they become in the force?
Originally posted by Master_Galen
Plus in the movies, when he is not fighting Yoda appears to walk slowly and in AOTC just before he fought Dooku he appeared to limp or walk very slowly.
Did his age/limp appear to hinder him as he was flipping through the air while fighting Dooku/Sidious? There was also a demostration in the Jedi Temple where 3 other Jedi Masters tryed to hit Yoda with a stick or something and nobody could touch him. He moved so fast he didn't even appear to have moved at all(iirc). Sidious also walks slowly, does that make him weaker, or indicate that his speed is lacking?
Originally posted by Master_Galen
Yeah but for Sidious it is all about making himself appear weaker than he really is to others, that way he will have an advantage because his opponents underestimate him or think him beaten when really he is playng possum.
You win. Yoda is just a feeble old green creature that can barely walk. His age will prevent him from keeping up with someone in the youth of their life. I wouldn't be surprised if he just fell asleep before the fight began because he is so old. 🙁
I'll just agree to disagree.