u werent even hear till the part about jean saying he was dead lol. wolverine getts head cut off many times ( wolverine 32)
wolverine survive nuke and incenercration(venom on the run)
wolverine survive beeing totaly up in flames his whole body pritty much destroyed ecpt for skeleton( Wolverine blood debt.)
"Magento may of sucked out my adamantium but you pulled out my whole skeleton once"( x-men unlimited bloodscream the heart of darkness). onle a couple of events.
so why'd xavier, a geneticist with a collection of mutant DNA information second only to sinister, say the best way to kill wolverine was to decapitate him? the xavier protocols came out about nine years prior to the noted issue of wolverine. and how is "pulled out my whole skeleton" at all accurate? losing your skeleton, along with your central nervous system, would send the remains of your body into nigh-automatic atrophy. and, unless cell samples remained intact on the skeleton from every known tissue type in his body, and he was given proper accomodations to regrow an entire body, that can't possibly be considered realistic. consider on top of that that wolverine was having almost hallucination-esque dreams about bloodscream in that same issue, how can it be at all proven? maybe he just dreamed it. maybe it's part of his memory implants. there's nothing more to go on than logan's word, something not entirely trustable through canon history.
basically, this is another issue, worse even than stormfront's "passion" for storm, of a fanboy subtley manipulating words and events to present their favorite character as more than they are. sorry to tell you, but wolverine is NOT a post-mortem regenerate. never will be. sorry.
Originally posted by Disappear
so why'd xavier, a geneticist with a collection of mutant DNA information second only to sinister, say the best way to kill wolverine was to decapitate him? the xavier protocols came out about nine years prior to the noted issue of wolverine. and how is "pulled out my whole skeleton" at all accurate? losing your skeleton, along with your central nervous system, would send the remains of your body into nigh-automatic atrophy. and, unless cell samples remained intact on the skeleton from every known tissue type in his body, and he was given proper accomodations to regrow an entire body, that can't possibly be considered realistic. consider on top of that that wolverine was having almost hallucination-esque dreams about bloodscream in that same issue, how can it be at all proven? maybe he just dreamed it. maybe it's part of his memory implants. there's nothing more to go on than logan's word, something not entirely trustable through canon history.basically, this is another issue, worse even than stormfront's "passion" for storm, of a fanboy subtley manipulating words and events to present their favorite character as more than they are. sorry to tell you, but wolverine is NOT a post-mortem regenerate. never will be. sorry.
this is comics u do realize don't u. real world does not apply to it. by the way u can nto say that state ment is not true. also I saw the comic were it happen I just do not own it lol. also memorie implants? do u know any thign about wolverine. he did not even know that guy till after the implants. so it can most deffently not bee implants. xavier said that cutting off wolverines head with long rang attacks may work it was a big maby. and then he said once his head is gone u have to take it very far away from the body. this was the only way he could think of that may kill wolverine. he say maby not that it would work. (wolverine 32) disprove it working any ways.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
like I said jean stated that he was medicly and mentaly dead. also it was on there flight home from when they found out wolverine was death.
Are you referring to the twelve storyline here?? Because the Wolverine who died was a skrull impostor who didn't have a healing factor but tried his best to simply avoid getting injured............
You have mentioned a few times that Logan survived having his adamantium skeleton removed by Magneto. Bear in mind logan nearly died and would have if not for Jean holding him in place with her telekinesis................
However to I will admit that logan died during the Logan files storyline. he was dead for 23 minutes apparently...................
This event aside I do believe that decapitation would kill Logan as mentioned in the Xavier Protocols. However I think decapitation is one of many ways to kill him.............and Permanently at that............
Originally posted by willRules
Are you referring to the twelve storyline here?? Because the Wolverine who died was a skrull impostor who didn't have a healing factor but tried his best to simply avoid getting injured............You have mentioned a few times that Logan survived having his adamantium skeleton removed by Magneto. Bear in mind logan nearly died and would have if not for Jean holding him in place with her telekinesis................
However to I will admit that logan died during the Logan files storyline. he was dead for 23 minutes apparently...................
This event aside I do believe that decapitation would kill Logan as mentioned in the Xavier Protocols. However I think decapitation is one of many ways to kill him.............and Permanently at that............
no thats not what I was talkning about. also decabitatin was a maby. prof. x said it may kill wolverine. also again (wolverine 32) dis proves it
harness a power of magnetism such as magneto and remove the abdimantium. decapitate him, and chop him into tiny pieces with lasers. pour the remains into acid, mixed with urea and formaldehyde. burn the remnants afterwards, then throw the charred remains into a thermo-nuclear vat. stir lightly. take whatevers left of him, and seperate them into 4 distinct pieces. transport each piece to a different dimension. i think that would do it.
alright, so a wolverine from the 1940's, housed in a nazi prison camp prior to receiving his adamantium skeleton can survive having his head chopped off "many times," yet a post-adamantium wolverine with an enhanced healing factor (compared to the '40's) would die from decapitation? can you spell "continuity error"? wolverine has never been SHOWN to survive being decapitated. and a geneticist and scientific researcher specializing in MUTANTS says taking his head off would kill him. you'd rather argue that the notes of a maniac prison warden who wound up offing himself hold up against that than accept that wolverine's not a frickin' god?
Originally posted by Disappear
alright, so a wolverine from the 1940's, housed in a nazi prison camp prior to receiving his adamantium skeleton can survive having his head chopped off "many times," yet a post-adamantium wolverine with an enhanced healing factor (compared to the '40's) would die from decapitation? can you spell "continuity error"? wolverine has never been SHOWN to survive being decapitated. and a geneticist and scientific researcher specializing in MUTANTS says taking his head off would kill him. you'd rather argue that the notes of a maniac prison warden who wound up offing himself hold up against that than accept that wolverine's not a frickin' god?
ya like i said again I own the dam comic. he said it might work. he never said it would work. it was a maby. also if u read the what he said it was if u blast him with extreme amount of fire power from a very long range and was able to blast his head off then kept on blasting him, then u have to bring his head very very far from his body and he said that may kill him but even he was not sure if it would. also being specialized in mutants does not mean he know every thing about every mutant thats like saying well im a scientist so i know every thing there is to know about all sciences
i think that if xavier's got enough knowledge to map the genetics of all the mutants in his teams of x-men, as well as the affiliate teams such as x-force and excalibur, he's got enough knowledge to know whether or not decapitation would kill 'im. and you comparing xavier's knowledge of a mutant very close to him to a scientist's knowledge of "all sciences" is not only a poor analogy, it's poor debate tactics.
“Since the loss of his adamantium, Wolverine has become both more and less of a threat. He is divested of his unbreakable skeleton - but his senses and his mutant healing factor have been increased to incredible levels. What would have been a lethal wound to Wolverine three years ago would now be a momentary annoyance. Any assault on Wolverine, in the event of his sanity breaking, would have to be long-range and decisive. His head would have to be severed, and removed utterly from the vicinity of his body to prevent swift flesh and nerve regrowth.“
this implies that the only way for wolverine to recover would be for the last electrical impulses in his body to stimulate his cells' ability to grow back together. a poor way to decapitate him would be through the use of a knife, or even a piano wire, which would require prolonged sawing to get through his neck. however, once his head is completely severed, you need only turn it so that the two wounds don't face eachother, and thus can't meld back together. you needn't punt it a quarter-mile away so that his headless body can't retrieve it; it simply can't grow back together without the injured areas of the severed neck being mere centimeters from eachother.
and, also, that explanation makes the possible "decapitations" in issue 32 IMPOSSIBLE. they would've killed him instantly, considering he was operating on that less-powerful healing factor. so, sorry. he still isn't immortal, and he still isn't coming back from the dead.