Official Doctor Who Thread

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Of course it's canon, but that's not relevant, nor is your "oh, he's not really alive' thing a plausible explanation. And whether the Doc is wrong or not is completely irrelevant as well.

Yes it is, he is in the TARDIS and technically already gone through his 13 lives.

That would easily explain why the Doctor doesn't consider him.

No need to debate whether or not The Master is alive or not. Most likely he is dead and not alive, but as Ush has said, doesn't seem to prevent him coming back, does it?

Absolutely. And as I have said repeatedly, no-one will care about the logic of it, and any new Master story will need to be for a new audience, not pointlessly tied to old details. Like I say, such things are irrelevant.

Like I say, RTD has said no more Time Lords = no more Master. So if the Master does crop up again, that's the angle that will be taken.

Also technically The Master isn't a timelord anymore ethier. He's a pile of goop that can possess people. And RTD has stayed true to all Doctor Who continuity so far so he would do the same with the Movie.

And I re-watched the movie, they never once say he died getting sucked into the heart of the TARDIS.

They don't need to say it...

The way I see it, it doesn't matter if he died or not, though evidence points to death.

He was absorbed by the heart of the TARDIS, whats to say the process can't be reversed?

Does it matter?

Absoluely not., Big 'who cares'. And everyone still considers the Master a Time Lord, geez.

You're grasping at silly straws, Eclipso. No-one cares. And RTD has happily shat over continuity- Doctor Who doesn't even really HAVE a fixed continuity anyway. We just had a story where the doors were opened in flight, which at least two stories have said was impossible, and in which a tunnel was bored down to the centre of the Earth, a situation which contradicts both Inferno and the Dalek Invasion of Earth- two rather notable stories!

Get used to it- no-one cares about something so trivial that most people watching won't even know about. Master = evil Time Lord. Qustion = why didn't he die in the war? The tv movie won't enter into it any more than his previous re-appearances cared much.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Absoluely not., Big 'who cares'. And everyone still considers the Master a Time Lord, geez.

You're grasping at silly straws, Eclipso. No-one cares. And RTD has happily shat over continuity- Doctor Who doesn't even really HAVE a fixed continuity anyway. We just had a story where the doors were opened in flight, which at least two stories have said was impossible, and in which a tunnel was bored down to the centre of the Earth, a situation which contradicts both Inferno and the Dalek Invasion of Earth- two rather notable stories!

Get used to it- no-one cares about something so trivial that most people watching won't even know about. Master = evil Time Lord. Qustion = why didn't he die in the war? The tv movie won't enter into it any more than his previous re-appearances cared much.

You seem to care a whole hell of a lot. And if you check some of the other online forums they do as well.

And to put it as simple as I possibly can, he didn't die in the war cause he spent the war as a pile of goop stuck in the heart of the TARDIS.

Errr... no, you'll find I precisely don't care at all, that's the point. And the rabid ravings of continuity-obsessed fans online do not impress me and they make up only a tiny portion of the Who audience.

And your "as simple as you can" is not even vaguely simple because it asks a whole load of other questions, is fantastically irrelevant to the question about the possibility of the Master returning, and above all, you are simply wrong to imagine that is the line they will take.

If the Master returns he will be re-introduced, not chained to previous continuity. That is absolutely the tack they have taken with everything so far.

At the end of the day folks it's down to the writers and scrip editor of the show. 😉

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Errr... no, you'll find I precisely don't care at all, that's the point. And the rabid ravings of continuity-obsessed fans online do not impress me and they make up only a tiny portion of the Who audience.

And your "as simple as you can" is not even vaguely simple because it asks a whole load of other questions, is fantastically irrelevant to the question about the possibility of the Master returning, and above all, you are simply wrong to imagine that is the line they will take.

If the Master returns he will be re-introduced, not chained to previous continuity. That is absolutely the tack they have taken with everything so far.

Actually, the fact that you keep responding and raving about it shows you care very much indeed. And you have no idea how he would be brought in, my way is just as plausible as yours is. Your not a writer for the show so you cannot claim to know which continuity they would go with.

No, I care about you spouting nonsense. That is very different and should have been very evident. My way is based upon the way they have treated other things from the Classic series and from what RTD himself has said. You are just basing it off blind fanboyism.

Learn.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
No, I care about you spouting nonsense. That is very different and should have been very evident. My way is based upon the way they have treated other things from the Classic series and from what RTD himself has said. You are just basing it off blind fanboyism.

Learn.

1) Your not a writer off the show, so you really can't say what they would and would not do. They could easily change their minds.

2) He's not really a time lord anymore, you need to understand that, he lived his 13 lives and now he's a pile of goop that can posses people. So he wouldn't break the "No other timelords" rule.

3) This all started as a simple suggestion for the show which you took offense at for some unknown reason.

1. I can listen to what they say and see what they do, though. Process of logic

2. Again, irrelevant to most viewers and irrelevant to a conceptual return of the Master

3. I never tire of correcting falsehood.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
1. I can listen to what they say and see what they do, though. Process of logic

2. Again, irrelevant to most viewers and irrelevant to a conceptual return of the Master

3. I never tire of correcting falsehood.

All your opinion, You have no idea if the show will change their mind at some point or not.

And it's amusing that you accuse me of fanboyism when your the one throwing a fit over a simple suggestion for a show.

Originally posted by Eclipso
All your opinion, You have no idea if the show will change their mind at some point or not.

And it's amusing that you accuse me of fanboyism when your the one throwing a fit over a simple suggestion for a show.

You know what's funny? You don't either...

And Ush isn't throwing a fit. He's arguing a point. Throwing a fit is if Ush snapped and deleted all your posts. ermm

Originally posted by Captain REX
You know what's funny? You don't either...

And Ush isn't throwing a fit. He's arguing a point. Throwing a fit is if Ush snapped and deleted all your posts. ermm

Calling everything I say nonsense and accusing me of fanboyism isn't exactly called for.

But that's fine, his thread he can do what he wishes. I'll just find another one with people who are open to possibilities.

One of the best shows ever.

Good luck with that, Eclipso...

Indeedy, I wish I had gotten into it sooner.