Official Doctor Who Thread

I want to see Lucy more, the idea of "evil companion" was cool.

And it seems that Master got more and more insane with each regeneration. Delgado`s one didn`t seem insane, just power hungry, as I have seen him in Power of the Autons.

Terror of.

He was always mad really. Most of his plans made no ultimate sense; he seemed to assme that having done mad thing x that everything else would fall into place.

You'd better have watched Spearhead from Space first, btw.

So instead of a 13 regeneration cycle, they now live for 900 years? I think that works better and allows for allot more actors to play the role and flexibility in stories.

The Ring the female hand picks up had markings on it like the fog watch did. Perhaps his essence is in the ring?

Maybe. it doesn't actually matter; thgere is no internal logic to it. It;s just a device for anyone writing team to use as they wish in future.

And your comment about the regeneration cycle is... uhh... well it's not true.

Well your not on the writing staff for the show, so you have no say in whats true or not. The Master said all 900 years of his life, meaning thats how long Time Lords live.

There's perfect logic to it. Who knows how much time The Master spent going around before he showed up on earth 18 months prior to this episode? He could've fashioned the ring to serve like the watch in case something happened to him.

You should really not make blanket statements, just because someone poses an idea you don't like that doesn't make it false.

And your ideas of logic don't matter.

The Master said all 900 years of his life, meaning thats how long Time Lords live.

Um, not really, because if I remember what I've read correctly, that's how old the Doctor is. Not how long Time Lords live.

Well the Master said it in reference to aging him forward, so it would seem to indicate his life span, not years he's already lived.

The Master also said he was suspending the Doctor's ability to regenerate. And note that he didn't die or anything even when he was aged forward that much.

Because that's his life span, just because you get old doesn't mean you just die.

I thought the Master aged the Doctor by 900 years as that's how long it takes until he naturally regenerates.

Anyway as far as I know that woman's hand was Lucy's as she wore red nail varnish too.

Could we see a female Time Lord/Lady in the next season? Could we see the... Rani?

Overall I think it was a really good final episode. I think Martha was great and I will miss her until she next appears (wherever that is).

Roll on Christmas.

Originally posted by Master_Bakura
Well your not on the writing staff for the show, so you have no say in whats true or not. The Master said all 900 years of his life, meaning thats how long Time Lords live.

There's perfect logic to it. Who knows how much time The Master spent going around before he showed up on earth 18 months prior to this episode? He could've fashioned the ring to serve like the watch in case something happened to him.

You should really not make blanket statements, just because someone poses an idea you don't like that doesn't make it false.

And your ideas of logic don't matter.

My ideas of logic make sense. Your do not. And you are certainly not listenting to the writing team if you think there is a perfect logic to that ring. RTD outright said it was just something he threw almost tandomly so a future production team can use it in any way they like as an excuse to ressurect.

I don't have to be on the writing staff to understand simple English, which is what you are having trouble doing.

Indeed, 900 years is just the Doctor's age. Fact, undeniable. Hence, NOT the lifespan of a Time Lord.

It is not the lifespan of a Time Lord, which is in millennia because we know that each of their regenerations can last for at least two centuries.

Your comment about Time Lords no longer regenerating is just total nonsense.

Hence, you are talking crap. What makes what you say false is not that I do not like it, but that it is stupid, amkes no sense, and has been said without paying attention to what is going on in the show.

There has already been one idiot trying to argue with me this way in the thread who turned out to be completely wrong in what he said about the Master asnd what would be said about his return. Learn from that.

I read back about that, and you said that The Master would not return because Russel had said no more Time Lords and because the Doctor did not sense any other Time Lords. So you were proven wrong there.

And no, your not on the writing staff, so when you try to speak as if you know facts about the show, it's meaningless.

When in the NEW series did they say a Time Lords regenerations last 2 centuries? Because they have changed things from the old series.

The Master said he was aging him all 900 years of his life, given the context in which he said it, it means the remainder of his life, not years he's already lived.

I never said Time Lords no longer regenerate, I said it looks as if they have dumped the 13 time limit on it.

As I said until your in the staff for the show, all your giving is your unfounded opinion.

Lie! I directly said the Master might be coming back during that conversation, even making direct reference to the Saxon rumour. I even specifically mentioned that such certainties are there to be tinkered with for dramatic effect. Try readng properly.

The arguing poster tried to talk about the master being a blob of gloop without regenerations trapped in the TARDIS and how they would explain and talk about all this. Wrong on all counts.

Whereas I made a very clear point. The series was only interested in two things if the Master returned- direct quote here:

"All you need for the new series is:

1. The Master is an evil Time Lord
2. He survived the Time War by (insert new plotline for the new series here)"

Right on all counts.

They have not changed a single thing about how Time Lords work from the series, or the Doctor's age at any point. he;s stll the same age he was. Which makes him more than 400 during his Second regeneration. Which means at least two centuries per regeneration.

It doesn;t matter about your silly interpretation of the Master's line. It's already been said in the new series that the Doctor is already 900 years old. FACT. UNARGUABLE. And it is that which the Master is referring to as should be obvious to anyone.

Get out of the playpen and try and actually bring some intellgence behind your points. You are way out of your depth.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Lie! I directly said the Master might be coming back during that conversation, even making direct reference to the Saxon rumour. I even specifically mentioned that such certainties are there to be tinkered with for dramatic effect. Try readng properly.

The arguing poster tried to talk about the master being a blob of gloop without regenerations and how they would explain and talk about all this.. [b]Wrong on all counts.

Whereas I made a very clear point. The series was only interested in two things if the Master returned- direct quote here:

"All you need for the new series is:

1. The Master is an evil Time Lord
2. He survived the Time War by (insert new plotline for the new series here)"

Right on all counts.

They have not changed a single thing about how Time Lords work from the series, or the Doctor's age at any point. he;s stll the same age he was. Which makes him more than 400 during his Second regeneration. Which means at least two centuries per regeneration.

It doesn;t matter about your silly interpretation of the Master's line. It's already been said in the new series that the Doctor is already 900 years old. FACT. UNARGUABLE. And it is that which the Master is referring to as should be obvious to anyone.

Get out of the playpen and try and actually bring some intellgence behind your points. You are way out of your depth. [/B]

Intelligence? I'm the one debating like an adult here and your the one acting like a child throwing a tantrum.

And no, at first you told the poster that Russel said no more Time Lords and so The Master wouldn't be coming back. You were wrong, get over it.

And instead of basing your ideas on whats going on inside your own little world, try reading interviews with people who are actually involved in the show. Russel said he had the Time Lords resurrect The Master as a way to tie it into the TV Movie.

And no where in the new series have they said a Time Lords regenerations last 200 years, your just giving your opinion and trying to make it sound like fact.

The Master was aging him forward to run out the REMAINDER of his life, not year already lived.

Now until you join the staff of the show, stop giving your opinions as fact.

I was not wrong. I specifically talked about the Master returning, Go back and read., You are simply lying to try and get your way. That is feeble and contempible. I have already pointed out that reference to you. have some courtesy and go find it rather than repeating the same lie over and over.

Him ressurecting the Master is doing things exactly the way I said he would. Again, totally free of explaining past continuity. Completely different from how Eclipso- who you blatantly are- said things would be.

My opinions ARE basd on what people in the show say and do things. That's why I am right, you see? And you saying that '900 years', already specifcally mentioned as the Doctor's lifespan, could possibly be used to refer to anything other than that when repeated in that episode... is entirely stupid.

Luckily, havig now done an ip check I can see you are an Eclipso sock, so bye bye.

Now now.

Now the series is over it's back to pie flinging. 😆

See you back here latter or early in the new year for comments on the Xmas special.

I am afraid that the one known as Eclipso will return before Master does.

And John Simms as Master was trully inspiring.

Humm Martha is back half way through the series and it looks like Tom Ellis(was in the third part of the season finale) could be the Doctor's male sidekick for the whole of the next series, as well as Martha when back.

And Kylie has a major role in the Christmas special.

All true from the BBC except the Tom Ellis part, but he is favourite.

Couldn't be arsed to read back a page to see if up, but there.