Phoenix vs Franklin Richards(full power)

Originally posted by The Flash
DC is not suppose to be realistic! That's why I read Marvel! I like totally relate to the character and the super powers are not over powered like that boyscout Superman and that slow as hell Flash. Running fast! What kind of a lame ass power is that?

your sarcasm needs work 😉
marvel characters are definitely more interesting, you got that right 😎 except for batman, batman kicks ass.

also the regular marvel characters are not nearly as powerful as the regular DC characters... all the powerful marvel chars end up underused like Silver Surfer or continually killed off/inhibiting herself like Jean Grey.

I know huh! I'm just pissed off that DC's over powered loser Superman can defeat Magneto, Iceman, Franklin Richards, Jean Grey and Cable.

like magneto i mean creating black holes isn't that weak compared to superspeed. thats prolly why he is in comics so much.

Originally posted by Xplosive
It wasn't sentient beaucse it's force. PF can leave Jean Grey whenever it wants. She is not possesed (like you said, it's ineteraction), she actully was possed when she became Dark Phoenix.

but youre mistaken when you say "PF can leave Jean Grey whenever it wants.". Their relationship simply isn't like that, and the phoenix force isn't a person who decides things. Its unconscious. The Phoenix is the Phoenix Force with a collective consciousness (of its avatars). Jean Grey is part of that collective.

This argument is trivial.

Marvel isn't realistic. DC isn't realistic. Comic books aren't realistic, damnit. That's why we read them; to escape this shitty "reality" thing for 5-10 minutes.

Originally posted by The Flash
I know huh! I'm just pissed off that DC's over powered loser Superman can defeat Magneto, Iceman, Franklin Richards, Jean Grey and Cable.

Foolass.

Originally posted by The Flash
I know huh! I'm just pissed off that DC's over powered loser Superman can defeat Magneto, Iceman, Franklin Richards, Jean Grey and Cable.

Who say Suerpman could beat Richards or Jean Grey.

Marvel is soooo realistic. I can relate to the character. Why do you think DC made Hal Jordan have realistic problems? That's right, because Marvel was kicking DC's ass in sales!

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
yea as Dark Phoenix she was possessed and also a little insane.

but youre mistaken when you say "PF can leave Jean Grey whenever it wants.". Their relationship simply isn't like that, and the phoenix force isn't a person who decides things. Its unconscious. The Phoenix is the Phoenix Force with a collective consciousness (of its avatars). Jean Grey is part of that collective.

Actully it can leave her, it existed before and without Jean, so it can leave her, PF was also with Rachel Summers, but Jean Grey was stronger of avatars.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Who say Suerpman could beat Richards or Jean Grey.

No they aren't. Big green monsters aren't realistic. Neither are sillver aliens that ride surfboards. Marvel's characters are easier to relate to because for the most part, they have realistic personalities, not realistic powers.

No shit, Sherlock. Why do you think I've been saying I related to the character?

Originally posted by The Flash
Didn't you know that DC makes their characters soooooo over powerful that it kills the realism? Superman is their number one guy, so he has to be more powerful than all those regular Marvel characters.

I know that very good, but Superman is really nothing to Richards or Phoenix. Superman had real trouble with Hulk, Hulk even knocked him into space. Marvel cahrcates are just more interesting that is it.

You're really acting like a major fanboy with the sarcasm, Flash. You prefer DC to Marvel, and that's understandable, but there has to be an extent. You're not even defending a character now, you're just preaching hatred.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Actully it can leave her, it existed before and without Jean, so it can leave her, PF was also with Rachel Summers, but Jean Grey was stronger of avatars.

The Phoenix Force existed before Jean, yes. The Phoenix did not. They aren't the same exact thing.

anyway, here are some images from Phoenix Endsong clarifying what I mean, I hope: Possible Spoilers

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You're really acting like a major fanboy with the sarcasm, Flash. You prefer DC to Marvel, and that's understandable, but there has to be an extent. You're not even defending a character, you're just preaching hatred now.

true.
cable or phoenix would wipe their asses with his cape

he's right flash.

Where did I ever show hate for Marvel? All I'm hating on is DC.

It's actully the same, beaucse of PF there is Phoenix, beaucse of PF Jean became Phoenix and so powerful. PF can just leave her, but it won't beacuse they are somehow part, beacuse of her mutation, and that is it, he can leave her, it does not depen on Jean.