God vs. Science: The Inclusion of Creationism in School Textbooks?

Started by IceWithin37 pages
Originally posted by Lana
In a history or religion class.

✅ yup

Originally posted by Lana
In a history or religion class.

oh yeah! screw up the history class, why don't ya? like they don't suffer under popularity already! 🙁

Originally posted by yerssot
oh yeah! screw up the history class, why don't ya? like they don't suffer under popularity already! 🙁

😛 I love history class

Originally posted by yerssot
oh yeah! screw up the history class, why don't ya? like they don't suffer under popularity already! 🙁

😛 well, you learn ABOUT religions in a history class, so you'd think that major points of that religion's beliefs would be covered. I didn't mean for it to be actually taught in history class, but more taught about. Like "This is what this religion believed at this point in time."

but in a traditional history class you don't learn about evolution or how the world evolved, so why should it be there?

and why does (christian) creatism gets so much priviledges? why don't the ideas of ancient egypt or african tribes for example be taught? they have the same rights, no?

Originally posted by IceWithin
😛 I love history class

you're a freak 😛

and who says it? *points*

Originally posted by yerssot
but in a traditional history class you don't learn about evolution or how the world evolved, so why should it be there?

and why does (christian) creatism gets so much priviledges? why don't the ideas of ancient egypt or african tribes for example be taught? they have the same rights, no?

you're a freak 😛

cry
Im not a freak, I'm just... sophisticated smoke

you're just a neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerd 😛

Originally posted by yerssot
you're just a neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerd 😛

excuse me, what are you studying again? 😛

Originally posted by yerssot
but in a traditional history class you don't learn about evolution or how the world evolved, so why should it be there?

and why does (christian) creatism gets so much priviledges? why don't the ideas of ancient egypt or african tribes for example be taught? they have the same rights, no?

you're a freak 😛

Because evolution goes in science class 😖mart:

Well, I've taken many history classes, and in each one we learned about various aspects of the religion of whatever we were studying. Like when I took one about East Asia we learned the basis of Buddhism, Shintoism, and Hinduism. It depends on the class you're taking, I guess.

Originally posted by Lana
Because evolution goes in science class 😖mart:

Well, I've taken many history classes, and in each one we learned about various aspects of the religion of whatever we were studying. Like when I took one about East Asia we learned the basis of Buddhism, Shintoism, and Hinduism. It depends on the class you're taking, I guess.

Im taking south american and european history classes at the mo

Originally posted by yerssot
that's why you can take a literature class...
works well at uni's here

Is optional I like that too.

Now that I have gather my thoughts more properly let me say this. I think that certain studies in mythology (or as you call them fairy tales) are helpful for certain fields of history. Archeologist and Anthropologist for example are require to read and study certain myths and legends to enrich their knowledge of different cultures. Without the knowledge or data of archeologist there wouldn't be any history to tell.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Totally inaccurate, whobdamandog.

First of all, look up what a theory is. Science deals with theories to explain phenomenons. Theories are tested, scientific models that have withstood scientific assault on their integrity. Saying it is a theory does not, in any way, diminish its value. All these people who say 'it is ONLY a theory', as if a theory is 'only' anything, are simply expressing ignorance of the nature of theory.

Secondly, Creationism is NOT a theory. It is a belief only. It does not even remotely meet the criteria of being a theory. This is why it is not science.

Sorry for the late response. Well you got one definition of a theory correct...let's look at Webster's definition of theory to get a few others shall we..?


a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory" 2: a tentative theory about the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena; "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"; "he proposed a fresh theory of alkalis that later was accepted in chemical practices" [syn: hypothesis, possibility] 3: a belief that can guide behavior; "the architect has a theory that more is less"; "they killed him on the theory that dead men tell no tales"

Creationism is a THEORY. Pure and simple. What you probably were trying to state was that you believed that "Creationism" can not be classified as a "SCIENTIFIC THEORY" That is your OPINION..which you are welcome too have, however, just because you have a certain OPINION about something, it doesn't necessarily make it fact..now does it?

With that being clarified.."Intelligent Design" should be taught along side the THEORY of Evolution in school. Both THEORIES have substanstiated evidence to support them. And with both THEORIES..you have to have a certain amount of FAITH if you choose to believe in them..lol. Scientists who support Evolution have FAITH that the "missing link" does exist. Creationists have a certain degree of FAITH that an intelligent creator exists. Seeing as how neither have been proven to be "Scientific Law" as of yet, I believe it's only fair to teach both of these THEORIES in a public school setting. And as I stated before, anyone who has a problem with their child learning either THEORY has the right under the law to pull their child from class or from the school entirely.

So where's your evidence for creationism that you just stated exists? Seriously. I'd like to see what you can come up with.

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i just wanna say that we were not doing anything about religion during history classes.
we had some mythology at polish classes (it is caled so, but it is literature for real)
and something during philosophy classes

😕

I would also like to state that in the US, because of seperation of church and state, creationism (which is a religious belief) shouldn't be taught ANYWAY....

Here's a few...

http://speakout.com/activism/opinions/3116-1.html

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4264/ID.html

http://acs.ucsd.edu/~idea/idtheorymenu.htm

Now show me the missing link..😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by WindDancer
Is optional I like that too.

Now that I have gather my thoughts more properly let me say this. I think that certain studies in mythology (or as you call them fairy tales) are helpful for certain fields of history. Archeologist and Anthropologist for example are require to read and study certain myths and legends to enrich their knowledge of different cultures. Without the knowledge or data of archeologist there wouldn't be any history to tell.


unless you're at uni, doing a specific direction of history, why should you learn those things?
with the same reasoning, you should learn the myths (as you call them) of EVERY culture there ever was, they have equal rights in this.
And only learn them in a literature class, not in a class that might let people to believe they actually hold any truth...

Originally posted by Lana
I would also like to state that in the US, because of seperation of church and state, creationism (which is a religious belief) shouldn't be taught ANYWAY....

You have no idea what your talking about. Read some of those links. Intelligent Design/Creationism isn't anymore a "religious" belief than evolution...

I absolutely agree that the universe is a "intelligent design", since its too well....designed. However I don't agree with the Christian Creationism that the activists are obviously trying to impose.

As Einstein said, for every clock there is a clockmaker.