Stop with the EU characters...

ok, im sick of in the Vs. threads where people say that exar kun would rape sidious and maul and vader at the same time. you gotta be kidding me. these EU characters are just friggin stupid.

any characters that are CANNON! automatically win anything by default because they are cannon....

like i could write a book called the "vengeance of sidious" or something where sidious kills 500 jedi knights and on and on and on. that would then because EU, and then all that exar kun crap would be null and sidious would be the best. thats why EU characters are just dumb...

the writers go way overboard with these characters and then 'we' say that they would destroy any of the cannon characters. its just plain dumb.

exar kun vs. sidious?

sidious wins just because hes a cannon character....get that through ur heads. and if you cant do that then stop comparing EU characters to cannon characters. because its just too friggin dumb.

compare cannon characters to other cannon characters and compare EU to other EU, dont mix it up and try to argue that EU characters are better simply because 1 random author says they are...

Lucas is right 100% of the time and if he says that Anakin or Palpatine is the strongest then that overwrites any EU crap....live with it.

im done my rant now...

Boy I can't compete with your intelligence and well thought out plans in the EU section. (Sarcasm for the slow people)

Smart one here is saying that C-3P0 would easily slaughter Darth Revan, Exar Kun, Anakin Solo, and Kyle Katarn all at the same time without even using both his hands. Yeah right. If your gonna say how stupid the EU is, why its wrong, etc. etc. don't do it in the EU section which was made just for what you don't want.

Lucas is right 100% of the time? So he never tells a falsehood, even outside of SW? What a god! I shall bow to him and burn my EU books and games at once. Your wisdom defies logic, Anomaly.

I sure hope he replies, I'm going to print what he types and sell it on e-bay as a joke book.

Wow, I'm not even that big of a fanboy

The Expanded Universe is considered canonical by Lucasfilm Ltd., though subordinate to the movie canon.

This means that EU is just as every bit canon as the movies as long as it doesn't contradict what the movies say. There is no contradiction when characters that are more powerful show up considering that the movies never state anyone is "the most powerful ever". So, therefore, your cries of EU being non-canon don't hold up, because according to Lucasfilm Ltd. itself, the EU is canon.

Think about that for a while.

And notice it's spelled 'canon', not 'cannon'.

hey i hope u know that ur in the eu section, obviosly u dont belong here or in the star wars big happy family

happy 😆 😂

To quote these boards:

This issue has continued to resurface as of late so this note will serve as a continually visible reminder of the way things work.

This dispute arises out of the way that EU material is not considered valid material to be accepted for debate in the film sections. I will now explain the reasoning for this.

EU means Expanded Universe, those parts of the Star Wars franchise that were not directly created by George Lucas himself- that is, the books, the computer games, technical manuals, encyclopedias etc. Note that it does NOT include the Novels of the films, even though GL did not write those himself.

'Canon' (as in gospel) means continuity, the validity of a storyline. Its most common use is when, say, two books in aseries contradict each ither, Which one is correct? The one that is had the 'canonical' take on the subect.

Canon can also be used in a more passive way, though, which is how it tends to be around here- meaning the things that always contain the canonical information, whether they are being contradicted or not.

The important thing here is that the EU is not canonical as far as George Lucas' Star Wars plot- the films- are concerned. Yes, GL does have some form of veto process over the content of EU material, but he only ever exercises this in a very vague way- like setting some things the EU cannot discuss and putting limits on who can be killed. It does not mean he considers it part of his storyline.

This therefore means that anything said in EU material has no bearing on the plot or storyline of the films at all. It is simply the interpretation of some authors of the Star Wars world that GL created. In recent times, EU has been far less contentious in regards to the films than earlier EU, but nonetheless this absolute truth about canonicity remains so.

Because of this, when a fact or plot point about the films is being discussed, EU sources are not factual. This doesn't necessarily make them useless- they have the power of opinion and interpretation (e.g. you could say, in a discussion about lightsabres, that the EU says 'x' about them and I think this is a good idea. That's fine- so long as you don't say it is a fact).

This is the only reason why this prohibition against EU in the Film areas exists. It has nothing to do with whether people like EU or not. Yes, some people hate it, but then some people hate Return of the Jedi and The Phantom Menace, doesn't mean we stop people talking about it. The only prohibition that exists is that as the EU is not canon it cannot have any factual input at all on things from the films. If this policy from Lucasfilm changed, then the policy on this board would change as well, regardless of who likes it and who did not.

and

Yes, GL does have some form of veto process over the content of EU material

enough said, if GL says in an interview that Anakin is the strongest, then he then can beat any of the EU characters. I.e. Exar Kun etc.

now if you will all excuse me i will be going back to the SW movie sections, where the stories and plots are not completly useless..

have a nice day 🙂

Lucas is right 100% of the time? So he never tells a falsehood, even outside of SW? What a god! I shall bow to him and burn my EU books and games at once. Your wisdom defies logic, Anomaly

and actually, yes when it comes to SW, lucas is right 100% of the time...if you had failed to noticed he created it, if he says that Palpatine can beat any of the EU characters, hes right....you cant argue with the man who made the entire story, sorry guys...

you are a gay idiot. you say he has no part in EU then you say he created ALL of it. you are an idiot.

First off, I love how you took all of that post and then picked out the one little insty part that supported your stupid narrow minded opinion. Now, I could be wasting my time with this, since you said you went back to the movie threads. But I bet you're sneaking back here, checking to see what people have to say.

Second, it says specifically that EU is not factual when discussing FACTS AND PLOT POINTS. This is clearly in reference to ideas about the films being influenced by EU works. It has NOTHING to do with our own little versus threads. Nothing.

"This therefore means that anything said in EU material has no bearing on the plot or storyline of the films at all."

Read that a few times.

Now... the EU versus threads which you bash are clearly not part of the plot or the storyline of the films. At all.

"This is the only reason why this prohibition against EU in the Film areas exists."

and lastly...

"It has nothing to do with whether people like EU or not. Yes, some people hate it, but then some people hate Return of the Jedi and The Phantom Menace, doesn't mean we stop people talking about it. The only prohibition that exists is that as the EU is not canon it cannot have any factual input at all on things from the films. If this policy from Lucasfilm changed, then the policy on this board would change as well, regardless of who likes it and who did not."

That right there was the equivalent of giving the enemy an ammo pack.

This thread is kind of useless

Anamoly is officially pwned.

I see he didn't argue against me. I guess it just helps maintain sanity to ignore the things that prove you wrong. Otherwise, all his talk about how EU doesn't affect discussion on movie plot points (which is true) is irrelevant. Because GL never said Palpy could destroy any of the EU chars nor Anakin (though they could).

you cant argue with the man who made the entire story, sorry guys...

I'm not arguing with Lucas. In fact, I'm merely agreeing with his own company's stance on the EU and that stance, unfortunately for you, is that EU is officially canon unless contradicting the films, in which case the film's credibility takes precedence. If a writer says Anakin joined the Dark Side because he likes red lightsabers, he'd be wrong and his EU contribution would be non-canon. But the fact that someone as powerful as Darth Revan existed is indeed official canon. Hell, Lucas has gone so far as to select which ending "actually happened".

How's that for GL ignoring EU?

So you're saying that Jar Jar would defeat Montross,jodo kast,Jaster Mereel,silas etc.

Yup he said that one ewok could kill all Jedi and all Sith during the Darth Bane War ✅

He's so stupid