Evange's Amalgam Tournament Announcement: Roster and Scheduling

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I think Invisible woman shouldn't be allowed. No one else will be able to get break her barrier once she puts a force bubble round you its game over. If you also ban that ability then you are restricting her too much where she will be pretty pointless.

Strength level= 1 ton, anything else is enhanced street level
Speed level= Enhaned human
Flight speed(if flight is allowed at all)= None
Durability= Resistant to damage, slight healing factor
Mental attacks= None

Characters like Blade, Black panther, Captain America and Batman are the pinnacle of street level characters. Characters like Spidey can easily remove your limbs, I consider them to be enhanced street level.

Characters like Deadpool can have their healing factor limited to the maximum, which could be something along the lines of, say, " Can heal cuts and bruises in moments, heals gouges and scrapes (the kind that take all the skin off a localized area) in minutes, low muscle damage and bone fractures in about an hour, complete bone breaks, severe muscle/tendon damage, broken bones in hours. Resistance to poisons, acids, and burns.

Mental attacks are too powerful, it only takes one to completely throw a fight.

Weapons should be limited to a melee weapon, a ranged weapon, and a few gadgets. Examples;

Captain America -
Shield
Bullet resistant body suit

Deadpool -
Two Katanas
One pistol
One SMG
limited ammunition

Black panther -
Vibranium claws
Energy blade
various gadgets (Not an expert on BP)

Taskmaster -
One Katana
One pistol
energy projector

Notice how DP got two katanas, two firearms, but limited ammunition. Taskmaster gets less, but he has the projector, which is a mix of his gadget/melle and ranged weapons. Cap's shield is amazing, so it is worth as much as a ranged, melee and gadget item. Of course, he should be wearing his bullet resistant body suit to make bullet wounds less effective.

Thats limiting the tournament to street level characters with little or no powers I thought the tournament was for enchanced street.

Well, it supposedly is "powerful street level". Or it has been suggested that is what it is.

I don't want magic of any type in the tourney though. Or flight.

Yeah its agreed no magic but whats wrong with flight? As long as there is no speed blitzing its fine.

Well, if one person gets flight....then everyone else will need it, therefore making everyones amalgam watered down.

Kinda like lightspeed in the tourney I'm in now.

Originally posted by long pig
IW should be allowed, just no instant kills for anyone.

at full power?.... no way..... she is way above powerful street level..... way, way above

Agreed. Nataku outlined the basic premise for regular street level, but it leaves us with too few options. Based solely on the need for 40 or so picks (possibly more), I think "powerful street level" and whatever rules we define is a necesity.

-DM

I agree
Strength:30-35 tons
Speed level= sub sonic at most
Flight speed:No
Durability=I think at the most can take a rocket to the chest.
Mental attacks= None that can be used for offensive purposes.
Powers: No shields, No invisibility, No teleportation, No Replication like Multiple Man,
Ranged Energy Attacks: Cyclops level but no wide area of damage such as 360 degree attack or one that attacks everything in site.
Weapons: Can carry all forms of basic human weapons such as grenades and swords as the character implied would have. special character weapons like Cap Shield should be allowed as well as wolverines claws with adamantium.
Healing factor: Should be able to heal from a basic bullet wound no problem or less.
I also feel if we are doing it the same way as before that whoever's mind you take gets basic knowledge of the other character's powers so that they understand how to use them
Ex. you get cyclops Blast but uses Batman's mind then that person understands that they have optic blast understand how to use it but they don't get Cyclops's accuracy.

I think the minds should be mashed together as well... Like Khell tried to do in the current tourney, by having an entire life story to his amalgam, thereby making him a master of all of the powers.

Strength: 35 tons may be pushing it. I'd go for 20 at max.

Flight: The problem with flight is that anyone with it and an energy attack automatically wins against people without flight. So everyone would need flight. Making amalgams more limited.

Psionics: Illusion casting is too iffy on how it would affect the other person's amalgam. One would argue that the other character would be running in circles like a schizophrenic after a good amount of cocaine, the other would argue that the illusions wouldn't hamper him at all. I think psionics should just get ditched.

Durability: Healing should be basically Wolverine level. No one should have bullets bouncing off of them.

I'd volunteer to host, since I wouldn't be joining the tournament, but I'm gonna be on and off a lot in terms of posting, so I wouldn't be able to keep up with it.

I don't think that they should gain mastery over all their powers if it is going to be like the last tournement. I mean they should have the knowledge they have these powers and how they work but they shouldn't have the same degree of control that the character using that power normally would since it took them years to perfect that skill this way you don't have someone with batman's mind saying that I use cyclop's optic blast with such pinpoint accuarcy that you die because I'm just that accurate.
Durability I feel that if we allow energy attacks like Cyclop's Optic Blast then there has to be some greater range of durability allowed such as perhaps the most being able to take a rocket to the chest so they can survive the energy attacks.

Luke Cage durability limit? How hard is his skin exactly? Though Black Panther's adamantium armor would come into question then....

No easy answers. I'd vote against flight though. It would eliminate tools like Vulture and Angel, but if properly paired flight would be lethal...and not everyone would have it (not that many street-level flying types).

Cyke should be the limit for energy...even he's pushing it.

Honestly, I wouldn't have a problem (personally) with any of this stuff. Maybe I'm just cocky as hell but I'd see it as a cool challenge. But I'm just trying to be as fair as possible with my opinions on what should and shouldn't be allowed.

And no freakin' psionics. At all. That's why it's a street-level tourney. The current one has (mostly) been about magic, telepathy, etc. We're trying to avoid that with this street-level tourney...make it more of a brawler-style tourney.

-DM

P.S. Why aren't you entering Dizzle? You seem interested...it might be fun.

P.P.S. Oh, and there's a big gap with no one in it between 10 Ton Strength and 50 Ton. Not too many people are in the middle...at least that I can think of. 50's pushing it, but I'd be fine with anything as high as 40, though 10-30 would probably be safer.

I think 20 tons should be max. The energy limit should be an attack that can be fatal but isnt always like gambits or cyclops. An example of fatal attack would be havoks plasma.

Originally posted by newjak86
I don't think that they should gain mastery over all their powers if it is going to be like the last tournement. I mean they should have the knowledge they have these powers and how they work but they shouldn't have the same degree of control that the character using that power normally would since it took them years to perfect that skill this way you don't have someone with batman's mind saying that I use cyclop's optic blast with such pinpoint accuarcy that you die because I'm just that accurate.

Pinpoint accuracy doesn't mean infallible aim. Yes, if it were to hit it would do severe damage, but the same thing could be said about any bullet ever shot at Spiderman. Most of the characters used in these amalgams will hav emade careers out of getting the hell out of the way of whatever's being shot at them. Also, I don't think we need all these restrictions on powers. I agree with no flight, and power levels of those like Invisible Woman and Havok are just plain too high, but I disagree with the proposed limitations on durability and healing. The fact is, as evidenced by the current tournament, these contests are decided on the debating ability of the members almost much as they are the power levels of the amalgams chosen (honestly, look at my debate with gautam and look at long pig spazzing about the lack of proper use of his characters). I say, let the best amalgam/debater combination win.

lol @ Long Pig's "spazzing"

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I agree that there should be no restrictions on powers. If a character seems too powerful, the host can reject it. But going "Cyclops is allowed but he can't take off his visor" will lead to a lot of debating on what a character is allowed to do during the fight instead of the poster's concentrating on strategy - there'll be a lot of "you can't do that!". Allow Cyclops; then allow everything he's done till now.

Originally posted by Scoobless
lol @ Long Pig's "spazzing"

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He was, though. He was pissed at the lack of Juggernaut usage.

Originally posted by Khellendros
He was, though. He was pissed at the lack of Juggernaut usage.

i can sympathise.... i wanted Jug on my first string team..... but he got picked before cos i went for Flash instead.... then he wasn't used by the guy that got him

Originally posted by DigiMark007
P.S. Why aren't you entering Dizzle? You seem interested...it might be fun.

I would, but I'm gonna be gone quite a bit over the next month or so, which means I would be running a good risk of missing drafting/an actual fight. Plus debating always tends to get me a bit agitated if it gets into my head that I'm arguing with someone who has the IQ of a brick. Even worse if people were agreeing with said brick rather than me... Anyhoo, I do love watching the tournaments, though I may miss a fight or three. Good luck to everyone in it.

Oh, and since 16 people definitely sounds like a lot, may I suggest having a 12 person tournament with a 3-way brawl for the finals? I definitely enjoyed the little bonus round in the current tourney...

I didn't "spazz", I just was less than pleased that he didn't use Jugs the way I woulda used Jugs....Fine, I spazzed a little. 😛

R.I.P Flash Thordon....may he rest in peace.
Ahem, just preparing for what to say when I eat him for breakfast.