Shazam vs Silver Surfer

Started by Cosmic Cube40 pages
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Well I guess I am not gonna worry about it until we get a scan or something.

Yeah.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
In order to rewrite smething, it has to be erased. In order to re-create something, it has to be destroyed. Neither require time-travel. If you can elaborate any further, feel free.

Not true. Did you ever see the movie Back To the Future 2?

Marty re-wrote history by buying the almanac, then loosing it to Biff so could bet on races. Thus re-writing history.

Hal re-created Coast City as a result of it being destroyed. Re-created it as is was before it got destroyed.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
When you rewrite the totality history, you rewrite everything that ever happened since the beginning of time itself. That would be starting from scratch.

Re-creating history is creating history that has already happened and bringing it back to what it was.
example - I re-create history and bing back WW2.

Re-writing history is changing history that has already happened.
example - I re-write history and change things so that there never was a WW2.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Re-creating history is creating history that has already happened and bringing it back to what it was.
example - I re-create history and bing back WW2.

Re-writing history is changing history that has already happened.
example - I re-write history and change things so that there never was a WW2.

I think I understand now.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Re-creating history is creating history that has already happened and bringing it back to what it was.
example - I re-create history and bing back WW2.

Re-writing history is changing history that has already happened.
example - I re-write history and change things so that there never was a WW2.

Recreating history? That's not what we were talking about. We were talking about the difference between recreating the universe and rewriting history.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Recreating history? That's not what we were talking about. We were talking about the difference between recreating the universe and rewriting history.

Parallax was going to destroy the universe then re-create it.

re-writing history is changing history. re-create history is bringing history back.

re-create and re-write are 2 different things.

Ive never seen someone re-write history without time travel.

to re-create history doesnt take time travel.

Thats what we were talking about.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Parallax was going to destroy the universe then re-create it.

re-writing history is changing history. re-create history is bringing history back.

re-create and re-write are 2 different things.

Ive never seen someone re-write history without time travel.

to re-create history doesnt take time travel.

Thats what we were talking about.

You've seen someone rewrite history? 😕

We are talking about rewriting history, not recreating it.

Regardless, has Captain Marvel ever time traveled?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You've seen someone rewrite history? 😕

We are talking about rewriting history, not recreating it.

Regardless, has Captain Marvel ever time traveled?

Huh? What are you talking aoburt CC?

"The villainous Sivana once used the Rock to re-write history, but Shazam and the Captains Marvel managed to turn everything right again."

No one was talking abuot re-creating history. You or kgkg were the one who brought it up with Surfer going back in time and killing Billy lol.

CM used the RoE to time travel and re-write a history that was re-written first.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Huh? What are you talking aoburt CC?

"The villainous Sivana once used the Rock to re-write history, but Shazam and the Captains Marvel managed to turn everything right again."

No one was talking abuot re-creating history. You or kgkg were the one who brought it up with Surfer going back in time and killing Billy lol.

CM used the RoE to time travel and re-write a history that was re-written first.

Give me an issue #. We will see how he rewrote history.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Give me an issue #. We will see how he rewrote history.

Time travel? i have the comic

Shazam makes him a map and tell him what to do, which lead him only to a specific Even then he makes mistakes

This wasn’t the original CM

what happened is that His mom , and dad were alive and were the CM's

CM was a victim and couldn’t remember shit

Shazam , and Waverider helps him

and once CM fixes the problem he is no more since he wasn’t the real CM , it is his son

As for time travel it's not like SS time travel he needed help, and he doesn't control anything , and he needs a map lol 

He need , and Shazam won't allow such a thing because it alters reality

Originally posted by kgkg
Time travel? i have the comic
Post scans or give a issue #.

Dont just say you have it cause that dont help much 😉

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Post scans or give a issue #.

Dont just say you have it cause that dont help much 😉


I am not the one trying to prove my point I have read those issue.

The Power of Shazam! 18-#27 I have read them, and you will see what I mean.

CM can't time travel without help and there it wasn’t a choice it was a must , that’s why Shazam , etc helped him out

He got help from Shazam , who gave him a map still he couldn't find his way 🙁

I don't think Jrod has read it have you Jrod?

It it not true that CM can travel through time by flying to the Rock of Eternity, and from there he can go to the past or present by circling the rock either clockwise or counter clockwise kgkg?

Have i read the power of Shazam#18 -27? Naw. Him getting help by Shazam the wizard doesnt mean anything. Thats what the wizard is for. Assistance.

Originally posted by jrodslam
It it not true that CM can travel through time by flying to the Rock of Eternity, and from there he can go to the past or present by circling the rock either clockwise or counter clockwise kgkg?

Have i read the power of Shazam#18 -27? Naw. Him getting help by Shazam the wizard doesnt mean anything. Thats what the wizard is for. Assistance.

? what

Surfer wins.

This thread should be merged with the other one.

Surfer:
Matter-manipulation, the power reserves of stars, traveling at lightspeed, ability to endow himself with Class 100 strength, a resistanance to telepathy, ability to stand at the center of a super-nova without breaking a sweat, energy manipulation powers allowing him to absorb almost any type of energy...

Marvel:
Wisdom of Solomon, Strength of Hercules, Stamina of Atlas, Power of Zeus, Courage of Achilles, and Speed Mercury.

Surfer takes this.

Anyone care to counter this?

Surfer matches Marvel on every level and then some.

Shazams lightning should do even worse than what Storm did to him...and if he gets knocked off his board..its going to be an even tougher fight.

My question is..can surfer transmute an essentially magical being?

That is a good point, but hasn't Surfer faced down magical beings before?

Originally posted by dawsey28
That is a good point, but hasn't Surfer faced down magical beings before?

That would be KG's territory, but from what I've seen, he doesn't fare too well. Snoops scans have shown it, and Odin took him out without effort.

With lighting from Zeus, I think Surfer would be in a world of hurt for the KO. Also, since the Captain is an essentially magical being with attributes from different Olympian gods, I dont think transmutation is going to work.

I would consider this an excellent fight though, and would pick up a comic with this pretty quick.