Silver Surfer vs Cyborg Supes

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Let's return to the debate.

It really isn't fair to compare one character's apparent shortcomings that appear in certain comic books. Plots can affect a character perforance. Don't compare their losses and shortcomings, compare their greatest feats. Let's assume both are performing at optimum efficiency, and fighting to the very best of their ability, using any power or ability at their disposal. Compare the two characters.

It wasn't biased CC Norrin wallows in self pity. but back to the thread.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
It wasn't biased CC Norrin wallows in self pity. but back to the thread.

damn i didnt think so may pages would pop up so quickly....on a sunday no less...this almost feels like old news now but here are the scans i promised

Cyborg Superman has all of Superman's abilities.

He is also composed of energy.

He can control metallic matter.

Do any of you have a better description of the Source Wall?

Originally posted by manjaro
damn i didnt think so may pages would pop up so quickly....on a sunday no less...this almost feels like old news now but here are the scans i promised

It also appears that this energy is tangible.

2.sorry his head got cut off

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
He's a metallic alloy in every description I've read of him. Not metal.
Cyborg also controls his body in a similar way in addition to his conciousness.
He can take over surfers body, just like he did with the source wall.

Surfer has stated many times he is not a metallic alloy, but an unknown substance created by galactus.

3.

supes saying that he would survive even the sun. i know without a doubt that SS can survive the sun as well but the fact that Henshaw could do it that means that he is not someone to phuck with.

thats why i put it a draw. the person who said make decsions on feats of strengtgh thats a very good idea, i'll dredge up some of my old issues and see what i can find

Originally posted by manjaro
3.

supes saying that he would survive even the sun. i know without a doubt that SS can survive the sun as well but the fact that Henshaw could do it that means that he is not someone to phuck with.

Surfer doesn't survive in the sun, he thrives in it.

hey i hear you man, but damn! that guy is full of self loathing. what the hell is his problem. you'd think that all the years he spent making up for his bad deeds would put him at ease

Originally posted by manjaro
hey i hear you man, but damn! that guy is full of self loathing. what the hell is his problem. you'd think that all the years he spent making up for his bad deeds would put him at ease

Yup you would Manjaro. I suspect the Kryptonian matrix of cyborg also thrive. Remeber his bio part is Supes DNA 😄

If Cyborg Superman can controll The Source Wall what luck does SS have against that kind of power and less you all forget........Superman can sleep in the sun.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I was responding to Avalonofthewind, who has been hostile towards me in the past. Whirlysplat apparently thought the comment was directed at him.

Perhaps he was joking, but Whirly made a rather biased remark in the Superman vs. Silver Surfer thread.

Hostile towards you? We've made some smartass remarks on our views..but never have I insulted you, have I? Where did you get that from?

I'm at work...but when I get home, I'll see if I can post scans of cyborg controlling parts of the Source wall.

No one ever answered whether the Source Wall is sentient. Is it an inanimate object or sentient and able to move and defend itself? I'm only asking because people keep bringing it up as if manipulating an inanimate, non-sentient substance is comparable to Surfer.

And isn't Surfer responsible for the deaths of billions upon billions of people and thousands of worlds as a herald of Galactus? That might weigh heavy on the soul. It's understandable he'd feel an enormous amount of guilt.

The Source Wall is made of promethium giants being who have been turned into imobile enery filled stautues by trying to come in contact with the source. I don't think anyone knows how sentient the wall is.

Originally posted by illadelph12
No one ever answered whether the Source Wall is sentient. Is it an inanimate object or sentient and able to move and defend itself? I'm only asking because people keep bringing it up as if manipulating an inanimate, non-sentient substance is comparable to Surfer.

And isn't Surfer responsible for the deaths of billions upon billions of people and thousands of worlds as a herald of Galactus? That might weigh heavy on the soul. It's understandable he'd feel an enormous amount of guilt.

Its all good. I dont know much on this wall matter so I am staying out of this one.

As promised...
A small description of the wall, and the Cyborg using a portion of the wall to attack supes.

Uh, Cyborg Supes himself said controlling the wall was beyond his abilities, and that he was greatly straining himself to control the small portion of it that he used. It's right there in the scans (second pic). It also shows that the wall is a barrier between galaxies and non-sentient.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Hostile towards you? We've made some smartass remarks on our views..but never have I insulted you, have I? Where did you get that from?

I'm at work...but when I get home, I'll see if I can post scans of cyborg controlling parts of the Source wall.

You only accuse me of hypocrisy every time you reply to my posts, and falsely at that.

The picture you have posted proves that the Cyborg (as I have long thought,) controls machinery, not just anything that is metal. Even if he could control metals, the Surfer's substance is unknown in constitution. It will take quite some convincing to sway my belief that Surfer will win this fight rather easily.