General Grievous

Started by Shadowkiller8 pages

I read somplace on here about Grevious being able to weild 4 sabers using his hands and feet. Well today on StarWars.com they have added him to the data bank and the pic on the expanded universe section he is using 3 sabers one in each hand and one with his foot.

the website indicates he uses the sabers merely as trophies. i doubt the saber is his weapon of choice... more a last line of defense. in EPIII, we know he uses the saber to execute a jedi, and i imagine that is what his intention in using them is. thus far, we have no solid evidence grevious makes it a habbit to use sabers in combat, and the pictures weve seen are likely just to "look pretty." i really dont think grevious is a force user. hes a "bounty-hunter" type. the boba fett of episode III.

Did you look at the pic in the data bank in the expanded universe section? It looks like it is from the clone wars micro series possibly tonights episode and he is using sabers.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/generalgrievous/?id=eu

Its EU so i dont necessarily trust it as being factual, however i do think that Lucasfilm would keep tabs on what they do in the clone wars cartoon, so you do have a point. i do, however, disagree with those who say you HAVE to be a forceuser to use a lightsaber. A lightsaber is just a glorified sword. Im sure anyone can pick one up and fight with it, although they would probably lose to a jedi. However being cybernetic and using three, perhaps he can duel effectively, but i don't beleive a non-force user could block blaster fire with a saber. THAT requires using the force since the speed of light is pretty darn fast and it would be impossible to block a laserblast without the force.

Originally posted by bigsef3
i don't beleive a non-force user could block blaster fire with a saber. THAT requires using the force since the speed of light is pretty darn fast and it would be impossible to block a laserblast without the force.

Your proboly right as we saw in A New Hope, Luke even had some issues with being able to block lasers being shot at him from his jedi training remote, and he had the ability to use the force.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
i can't believe i forgot to mention this before, the main difference between a wannabee/witch/Rouge or dark jedi or casual dark side user and a sithlord is that the sith create an imbalance in the force. and according to some of the recent clone wars novels and things (again feel free to shout me down), not even jango knew Dooku was a sith, calling him Count Tyrannous. The Jedi really have no evidence that Dooku is a sith other than the fact that he uses the dark side and a red light saber. but as Dooku himself states clone Wars chapter 8 "you wear the trappings of the sith, you fight like the sith...but this can be imitated".

One other thing from that same source, regardless of dark side use, "sith have no fear"

Of course they have fear!

'Fear is my ally'- Darth Maul

Dooku was just winding her up! Dark Siders are in touch with their emotions.

It is almost certainly true you would need the force to block fire.

And wholst anyone could technically just pick up and swing a lightsabre, to use it as a weapon is INCREDIBLY dangerous. it is not like a normal sword; anyone just trying to use it as one will most likely kill themselves before an enemy. But in general I agree- there is nothing mystic about a lightsabre. I would simply say that to create droids that can fight with them, if so, is simply very difficult and hence mostly prohibitive.

Grievous uses sabres. That Clone Wars episode is designed to introduce him as the Ep. III bad guy- listen to the commentaries and you will hear the impact GL is having on these episodes (Durge and Ventress are also GL in origin... GL is keeping relatively tight control on Clone Wars). GL wouldn't let him use sabres in that episode if he would not in the film.

BTW, Shadowkiller, I posted that pic a while ago in the thread about the leaked footage.

Bigsef, NO-ONE was claiming grey, in-between area, that I saw.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Of course they have fear!

BTW, Shadowkiller, I posted that pic a while ago in the thread about the leaked footage.

Ahh I must have missed it.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
'Fear is my ally'- Darth Maul

Just wondering, when did Maul say this? The only thing I remember him saying was " At last we will reveal ourselves. At last, we shall have revenge."

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It was from the Darth Maul TV Spot.

he meant the fear of others, did anyone see the general's debute tonite? HOLY ****ING SHIT!!!!!!!!!

Grievous was truly incredible. If he could inspire that much fear and kick that much ass in a cartoon, I can't wait to see him in Episode 3.

i wonder how ki, shak, and aayla survived that encounter...

Ok, so, we can ask this question again- do you think he will fight on film like he does in the cartoon?

The cartoon does, of course, deliberately exaggerate and stylise things- I think the Mace Windu episodes demonstrate that best. As the maker says, you can get away with these things on cartoon in a way you vannot on film.

Yet the lightsabre duels have been done with close attention to the films, especially with Dooku's style. So what do you think with Grievous- a preview of what to expect, or simply the cartoon's interpretation of him?

My hope is that Aayla just flees to a new found galaxy where she immediatly goes to a little blue planet, straight to me 😄

Originally posted by yerssot
My hope is that Aayla just flees to a new found galaxy where she immediatly goes to a little blue planet, straight to me 😄

LOL!

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Last Nights Clone Wars was F*ing Bad @ss!!!

I hope that we see him do the same in Episode Three.

Listening to the commentary makes interesting listening- about how Lucasfilm deliberately intervened to extend the episode (which orignally just had Anakin turn up, the Jedi leave Munnilist and the cam pan down to have Durge re-constructing himself) to put in Grievous.

I think that was a nice treat for Lucas to let The General be introduced in the cartoon. They way they ended it was way better then seing Durge reconstruct himself.
I know this is al little of subject of the thread. Am I to assume that Asajj survived that fall from the cliff during her battle with Anikan?

Ok, the commentary also makes it clear that they had almost NOTHING to go on with Grievous- all they knew is that he was fast and agile, and higher-pitched than Vader. So his voice, presence and fighting style might be entirely different in the film.

Not impossible, though, that there is retro-continuity here, as the film might take the cartoon as influence, seeing as it was early in film production that they did all this...

But all in all, maybe he does not use sabres on screen after all- though it still likely that he does.

Although we don't have a body, I would reckon Ventress is dead. They already want Durge back; SOMEONE has to stay dead...

As for Grievous being a Force user, it should be remembered that Lucas' order for his design was "I want a droid general." The designers made him a cyborg but it was not build into his design- so from a plot point of view, he is certainly nothing like Sifo-Dyas.

Its going to be interesting to see how Greivous Will be depicted on film.
I think that cartoon has made them definitely have an expectation to live up too, I can only imagine the disappointment if he is not as cool in the film.