Actually, our Church uses any Bible versions. The thought remains the same although they differ in words literally.
Nice hint, deb. It's historical. History repeats itself as a cliche would tell. 🙂 Most people would think "the ravenous bird" as Cyrus, King of Persia from the East. But, the Bible is speaking about the "ravenous bird" who has God's righteousness. This "man" should be more into a reigious duty/mission than a civil one. And Cyrus has never been a religious servant of God. 🙂
Originally posted by debbiejoThe "ravenous bird" symbolizes a "man who has God's righteousness". He was likened to a "bird of prey" because of his divine mission. That is, "to snatch up the sons and daughters of God from the east, gathering them from the west, against the hindarnce from the north and the south... bringing them back to God as one flock from the ends of the earth".
Come on now....are you telling us it's you?...Are you ravenous?
God's "last" divine mission is at the "ends of the earth" during the "last days" - days before the second advent of Christ - hence calling this messenger, the bird of prey, the angel from the east - the last messenger.
days before the second advent of Christ
Cos you promised milk and honey
With an everlasting life
And we listened with our ears closed
And a blindness in our eyes
But we heard them as they nailed you
And we saw you crucified
The second coming of the Holy Ghost
We need a pocketful of miracles
Two thousand years and he ain't shown yet
We kept his seat warm and the table set
The second sitting for the Last Supper - 10cc
Originally posted by Jury
The "ravenous bird" symbolizes a "man who has God's righteousness". He was likened to a "bird of prey" because of his divine mission. That is, "to snatch up the sons and daughters of God from the east, gathering them from the west, against the hindarnce from the north and the south... bringing them back to God as one flock from the ends of the earth".God's "last" divine mission is at the "ends of the earth" during the "last days" - days before the second advent of Christ - hence calling this messenger, the bird of prey, the angel from the east - the last messenger.
So...who's this bird of prey?....you must have some idea?
You can find the fruit of his works in most places in the world by virtue of God's promise.
I can't tell you exactly but you can find his works if you have the heart to search him.
"Find first the kingdom of God and everything will be added to you."
This man who became God's instrument to His divine mission in the last days is the angel from the east, from the islands of the sea, from the time ends of the earth.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It is not my problem. Buddha called this time the latter days of the law, so even Buddhism knew that something was going to happen. It may still take a few hundred years or not.
Many religions are expecting something to happen, even these ancient pyramid writings...Even the Native Americans if I remember right.
Though the Jews at Pass Over still set a place at the table for Elijah...still waiting for him...cause he is supposed to come before their Messiah.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Many religions are expecting something to happen, even these ancient pyramid writings...Even the Native Americans if I remember right.Though the Jews at Pass Over still set a place at the table for Elijah...still waiting for him...cause he is supposed to come before their Messiah.
Maybe the waiting for something to happen will make something happen.
To Jury
Regarding your original post on the Rosary being of pagan origin, I have a few questions. Please pardon the delay in posting as I just stumbled upon this site.
1) You say you are neither Catholic nor Protestant, but are Bible believing. It is good that you believe in the Bible and what it says. The question is, where did the Bible come from? To find this answer, first, pray ernestly to God that you might know the truth. Since God is Truth itself and is incabable of deceiving, than you can rest assured that God will answer your prayers. Second, read documents from the early Christian history, specifically the early Christian Church Fathers and some objective history of the first 500-600 years of Christianity. It may take time, but you will get the Truth.
2) You say the Rosary is pagan in origin, yet none of the sources you cite confirm this. The only thing they confirm is that the use of beads and the meditative quality that they bring with it, were in use before the Rosary in pagan religion and are in use currently right now in other religions such as Buddism.
The fact that a rosary uses beads, common to other religions is similar to the use of a building as a common meeting place for religion. For example, Jews meet in a synagogue to pray in common. Because Lutheran's or Catholic's or Evangelicals meet in a building too, does that make them Jewish? Certainly not! Therefore, it can not be concluded that just because a rosary uses beads that it is of pagan origin.
3) In the interest of full disclosure, if you want to really understand the Catholic perspective on Mary and her role in Christian salvation, then do two things. First, pray to God to know the real truth about Mary. Like above, here we can trust that God, who is Truth itself, will not deceive you and will only let you know the truth. Second, read "True Devotion to Mary" by St. Louis DeMontfort. This book is considered amongst Catholics to present the greatest explanation of Mary's relationship to God and of her relationship to humanity as a whole.