Galactus vs Apocolypsevs Unicron??

Started by Insane Titan4 pages

Didn't comic Unicron destroy all of creation in the transformers universe ?

Yes, but there are a few things to keep in mind...

Originally posted by Galan007
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But to be fair...
a.) We can't really say how long it took him to accomplish that feat. Based on the *other* retelling, it certainly wasn't instantaneous.
b.) He wasn't overly thorough when he consumed said creation, as fragments of the old realmS(plural) still existed in the wake of his frenzy--this is how the second Transformers-verse was ultimately created.

Cheers galan

Originally posted by Galan007

There was nothing wrong with you chiming in, but you did chime in nonetheless. I welcomed it, however, because it gave me a chance to reiterate my opinion. This is a comic book discussion board, after all... Chiming in and reiteration is what we do.


Chiming is ok, "Randomly" though? Neh-eh.
(because people shouldn't be posting without a conscious decision)

.. but anyway, I'm stoned right now so let's have a coconut smile and move forward.

Originally posted by Galan007

...Also, there's no letters pages in issue #64(in my rip, at least)--


Originally posted by operator616

I have Transformers US #64, and i didn't see any letters page, and i doubt id missed that anyway (there's only those profiles at the end of the issue).


Sorry friends, but yall are gonna have ta buy the real thing to see it.

My rip didn't have it either, I then downloaded several copies of the issue,
and I finally found the Letters Page. The only problem is, the only copy I
found with it, was printed in Spanish lol.

But the English version is real and it's out there:

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Deadly_Obsession ... (under "notes"😉

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/circuitb.htm ... (2nd paragraph in the "Comments" section)

http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/83287-tf-wiki-thread-20/page-25 ... (bottom of page)

You boys may possibly be able to find this Letters Page in Transformers #289 (a Re-Print of #64)
Although, I'm not sure Marvel re-prints the Letters Page.

Also, I luvs Marvunapp many times. They broke down T-Universe meticulously. (regarding wtfs concerning canonicity)

Originally posted by operator616

So you agree that Transformers is outside the prime/mainstream multiverse? If so, (based on our previous discussion) why do you disagree that it's a separate multiverse (as opposed to being merely a universe) considering that we saw alternate realities?


The collective info posted (prior/current) has reasonably made me lean towards an understanding.
I do have one question though. These alternate realities, do they refer to the Future only?

Or are there different versions of the main T-Universe characters,
different as in Alternate, not simply a diverged history of the original like some What IF?

Originally posted by Mr Master
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Did you just say the 'b' word?

Phuck. That. none

Originally posted by Mr Master

The collective info posted (prior/current) has reasonably made me lean towards an understanding.
I do have one question though. These alternate realities, do they refer to the Future only?

Or are there different versions of the main T-Universe characters,
different as in Alternate, not simply a diverged history of the original like some What IF?

Future, mostly (there are many of those). But what does it matter? It's an alternate future reality. A parallel dimension (as mentioned in the scans). Also, the bios mention countless alternate realities, so...

Nothing in Transformers UK #289, though.

Originally posted by Galan007

Did you just say the 'b' word?

Phuck. That. none


... I know, that was almost sacrilege. Well, I wanna read it in English, so I hope opr finds it.
Originally posted by operator616

Future, mostly (there are many of those). But what does it matter? It's an alternate future reality. A parallel dimension (as mentioned in the scans). Also, the bios mention countless alternate realities, so...


I'm not disputing them being universes, it's just that if they're only "Futures"
then this multiverse only has diverged realities, and these realities spring up
according to occurrences in the prime TU. I'm figuring that is.

I just wanted to see if there was a difference.

Originally posted by operator616

Nothing in Transformers UK #289, though.

Well, I didn't think it would be. You're gonna have to order the tpb, cause my
copies are missing the letters page except for my spanish print.
But you noticed the links I posted so it's does exist.

It just strikes me as odd that in this day and age a statement of that magnitude(even though it really doesn't mean much in the official scheme of things) has never been digitized and posted online. I've seen plenty of people reference it, but haven't found a single person that has posted a pic/scan of the quote itself(despite claiming to own the issue.)

Not saying it doesn't exist... I just find that extremely strange.

Originally posted by Mr Master
the only copy I
found with it, was printed in Spanish lol.

wtf is the deal with everything being in spanish all of a sudden? used to be no prob getting individual issues. now, you gotta rip entire series' to get a single book or it's in spanish. not coolz i tell ya....

Ill try and get the trade (i most likely will)...no promises though.

When and if i do, ill bump the thread (which wouldn't be anytime soon).

If you plan on spending money on the actual TPB just to acquire an irrelevant letters page(I say 'irrelevant' because the statement in question wouldn't tell us anything we don't already know), please read this post from a member of the Transformers forum...

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Aside from #74-80, all the Marvel Transformers issues I own are in TPB format. I don't miss the ads, but letters pages could be fun to have. Oh well.

It sounds like the TPBs do not include the letters pages, so you'd likely have to purchase the single issue. And those guys are about as geeky as it gets where the T-U is concerned, so I'd take their word for it. /shrug

Originally posted by leonidas
wtf is the deal with everything being in spanish all of a sudden? used to be no prob getting individual issues. now, you gotta rip entire series' to get a single book or it's in spanish. not coolz i tell ya....
Most of the time I end up wanting to read the whole series anyway, so I don't mind DL'ing an entire run... I haven't had much of an issue with foreign stuff, though. mmm

These days my biggest goal is to replace some of my favorite c2c/scanned comics, with new webripped/digital versions. Even though many notable series' have been webripped, there are some that probably never will be 🙁. Just in case you're unfamiliar, the quality difference is truly amazing...

As an example, compare this old/original scene from SW II:

With this new/webripped version:

Night and day.

Originally posted by Galan007
If you plan on spending money on the actual TPB just to acquire an irrelevant letters page(I say 'irrelevant' because the statement in question wouldn't tell us anything we don't already know), please read this post from a member of the Transformers forum...

It sounds like the TPBs do not include the letters pages, so you'd likely have to purchase the single issue. And those guys are about as geeky as it gets where the T-U is concerned, so I'd take their word for it. /shrug

Well, i order some books from time to time anyways (which is why i said, it's not gonna be soon) through Amazon.

I don't see where it says that TBPs don't have letter pages.....if they don't, then what does?

Originally posted by operator616
Well, i order some books from time to time anyways (which is why i said, it's not gonna be soon) through Amazon.

I don't see where it says that TBPs don't have letter pages.....if they don't, then what does?

"Aside from #74-80, all the Marvel Transformers issues I own are in TPB format. I don't miss the ads, but letters pages could be fun to have. Oh well. "

To me that implies that the TPBs don't have letters pages. You'd likely have to purchase the original single issue if you want the letters page.

^^ opr may be referring to 'mass market paperback' (single issues) and using the term tpb.
I myself use the term interchangeably although literally I know it's a collection of stories in one book.

Originally posted by leonidas

wtf is the deal with everything being in spanish all of a sudden? used to be no prob getting individual issues. now, you gotta rip entire series' to get a single book or it's in spanish. not coolz i tell ya....


😂 👆

I guess the only ok thingy about it is that the dialogue is identical:


... freakin headache to read though. (my latin spit isn't too good)

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Also, @Galan & opr, here's the Letters Page at the end of this issue: (Transformers US #80)

... bummer, I noticed this spanish-version download tricked me labelling it as issues #64-68,
when in fact, it's issues #77-80.
All four issues had Letter Pages, one of them had 3 pages the others 2 each.

Well, Marvunapp stated they have expressed across their letter pages that the TU is not in/part of the MU,
and it's true, because in that letter page above it states that.
(right above the center image and right below the center image)
They said it would be too much of a hassle for editors to sort out. (I think that's what it says lol)

It's the best I could do friends. ... meh, we have proof they exist at-least. 🙂
Unfortunately whoever circulated that download, (english) took out the letter pages. (which would seem daunting imo)
I mean how much space did he think he was saving lol.

When opr gets the actual issue and scans it for us, we'll have the real deal, (#64)
and not that it will officially prove anything, but it would be nice just to see it with our own eyes.

Originally posted by Mr Master
^^ opr may be referring to 'mass market paperback' (single issues) and using the term tpb.
I myself use the term interchangeably although literally I know it's a collection of stories in one book.
Yeah, I could see that. 👆

Got the book, didn't result in anything. There was no letters page at the end of issue #64, there was only an Editor's note at the end discussing some elements of the plot, nothing relevant regarding the Spiderman instance.

Im starting to doubt its existence, although, it doesn't matter much if you ask me. Im positively certain that Transformers-verse is dissociated from the mainstream Marvel (that much is evident throughout the Transformers comics).