Originally posted by Lana
3 times, actually; once on her leg and twice on her neck.I dunno...she broke the law by resisting arrest, but tasering her 3 times is a bit excessive, I think.
Whatever it takes to get her to release her steering wheele after being put under arrest. Now, if they kept tasering her after she had released the wheel, that would be excessive. Doing it untill she complies with their, very simple, orders, is not.
Originally posted by BackFire
ok, my bad.3 times then.
Still, that's different form doing it several times.
And even so, she caused herself to be tasered by resisting arrest.
Definition of several:
Being of a number more than two or three but not many
I think "several" is a pretty accurate term to define the number of times she was tasered..
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Definition of several:Being of a number more than two or three but not many
I think "several" is a pretty accurate term to define the number of times she was tasered..
The number wasn't more then three, it WAS three.
So it would be "a few" for her. Several generally means 5 or so.
Originally posted by BackFire
How would holding her make her release her steering wheel?
how was that woman holding the steering wheel an immediate threat to the officer...or herself. thats the whole point and reason for nonlethal weapons, to alleviate any danger to the arresting officer and/or the person being apprehended.
and please, no talk about how some officers have been killed in such a situation, because that has little to do with it (aimed at ush). police have been shot and killed just walking up to a person they pulled over, with no talk of arrest. there is no justifying what took place based on possibility. if that was the case, then it would be justifiable for a cop to taser you as standard procedure in a routine traffic stop...because "hey, you never know"
"how was he holding the steering wheel an immediate threat to the officer...or herself. thats the whole point and reason for nonlethal weapons, to alleviate any danger to the arresting officer and/or the person being apprehended."
When people start to resist arrest, a threat is born, more or less. More often then not, someone resisting arrest will begin to resort to violence and physicality, or possibly even taking out a weapon of some sort to use against the officers to continue to resist arrest. It's crucial, from a cops point of view, to end a resistance as quickly as possible, before it escalates to something more dangerous for both parties.
"Possibility" and "Probability" have to come into play for a cop, especially when it comes to someone resisting arrest.
Originally posted by BackFire
When people start to resist arrest, a threat is born, more or less.
Your right man. I was wrong. What could I be thinking? A pregnant woman inside of a car...who is eight months pregnant..irritable....who has just dropped her bratty child off from school...doesn't want to sign a ticket for a minor traffic violation..should definately be considered a threat in anyone's book....what was I thinking? My bad..man...my bad...
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Your right man. I was wrong. What could I be thinking? A pregnant woman inside of a car...who is eight months pregnant..irritable....who has just dropped her bratty child off from school...doesn't want to sign a ticket for a minor traffic violation..should definately be considered a threat in anyone's book....what was I thinking? My bad..man...my bad...
shes pregnant and under stress, just dropped off her kid who was probley causing her stress, she could have done anything and snapped.
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Your right man. I was wrong. What could I be thinking? A pregnant woman inside of a car...who is eight months pregnant..irritable....who has just dropped her bratty child off from school...doesn't want to sign a ticket for a minor traffic violation..should definately be considered a threat in anyone's book....what was I thinking? My bad..man...my bad...
You know, people keep bring up the whole "she's pregnant" thing all the time, as if her being pregnant totally negates any possibility of her posing a threat to police.
A pregnant woman has just as much a chance to be carrying a gun or a weapon as anyone else, and her being pregnant doesn't mean she can't make a violent decision or move. The fact that she did resist her arrest elevates everything in a cops eyes.
Again, it wasn't her not wanting to sign the ticket, it was her refusing to go with the cops when she was placed under arrest that caused the problem. The signing ticket thing is a moot point.
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Your right man. I was wrong. What could I be thinking? A pregnant woman inside of a car...who is eight months pregnant..irritable....who has just dropped her bratty child off from school...doesn't want to sign a ticket for a minor traffic violation..should definately be considered a threat in anyone's book....what was I thinking? My bad..man...my bad...
Anyone could be carrying a concealed weapon....
Originally posted by Lana
Anyone could be carrying a concealed weapon....
the exact point i bring up over and over.
not to mention everyone's failure to answer my question:
what did the baby do to deserve being shocked with 50000 volts?
"its the mother's fault" they say...but when did she point the taser at herself and pull the trigger? never.