No need if a god as in the bible all ready knows your wants.........yes?.......Though I do believe we do attract as in studies what we put out............at least to some degree..
Have you ever noticed that negative things always seem to happen to negative people. and vice versa?......Or that of equal values????.....think about it...
Originally posted by debbiejo
No need if a god as in the bible all ready knows your wants.........yes?.......Though I do believe we do attract as in studies what we put out............at least to some degree..
So why doesn't IT (GOD) Feed the hungry? is a slice of bread too much for God.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Have you ever noticed that negative things always seem to happen to negative people. and vice versa?......Or that of equal values????.....think about it...
No all I have noticed so far is that is seems that negative things seems happen to positive people and vice versa:
Why Martin Luther King was killed when he was only positive about a better tomorrow.
Why Princess Diane was killed. when all she wants is a better life.
When the priests molesting little kids at the church get caught. they get a long paid vaccation in Hawaii and may be a promotion to the Vatican
I think the laws of physics still rule: Opposites attracts.
Originally posted by TheSpinner
No all I have noticed so far is that is seems that negative things seems happen to positive people and vice versa:Why Martin Luther King was killed when he was only positive about a better tomorrow.
Why Princess Diane was killed. when all she wants is a better life.
When the priests molesting little kids at the church get caught. they get a long paid vaccation in Hawaii and may be a promotion to the Vatican
I think the laws of physics still rule: Opposites attracts.
Haven't you noticed that it was humans who did all this(Killing etc)? Not god. It's not natural, that's why bad stuff happens to good people, because sinners make bad stuff happen(Mostly caused by themselves)
Ofcourse, if there wasn't sinners, there would be no bad things and good things will happen to good people and bad people wouldn't exist so there'd be no murderers etc.
Originally posted by O Green World
Haven't you noticed that it was humans who did all this(Killing etc)? Not god. It's not natural, that's why bad stuff happens to good people, because sinners make bad stuff happen(Mostly caused by themselves)Ofcourse, if there wasn't sinners, there would be no bad things and good things will happen to good people and bad people wouldn't exist so there'd be no murderers etc.
Originally posted by O Green World
Haven't you noticed that it was humans who did all this(Killing etc)? Not god. It's not natural, that's why bad stuff happens to good people, because sinners make bad stuff happen(Mostly caused by themselves)Ofcourse, if there wasn't sinners, there would be no bad things and good things will happen to good people and bad people wouldn't exist so there'd be no murderers etc.
My beliefs include a phrase "Opposition in all things." I take this as literal in every sense. We have Christ and we have the Devil. We have atheists, we have theists. We have law, we have anarchy. We are hungry, we become full. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. For the rich to exist someone has to be poor. For someone to have excess, someone must have a deficit.
I don't believe people would be good if there weren't something bad out there.
Originally posted by Alliance
If your religion is so right...doesn't it have a responsibility for the rest of the world?
That is my religions reason for the "annoying missionaries" you have mentioned before Alliance 😉
Originally posted by Regret
That is my religions reason for the "annoying missionaries" you have mentioned before Alliance 😉
I'm just saying: If you think your god is the one true god, but then you blame label all people who don't believe in your god "sinners" and blame them for all the worlds problems...you got issues.
Originally posted by O Green World
Haven't you noticed that it was humans who did all this(Killing etc)? Not god. It's not natural, that's why bad stuff happens to good people, because sinners make bad stuff happen(Mostly caused by themselves)Ofcourse, if there wasn't sinners, there would be no bad things and good things will happen to good people and bad people wouldn't exist so there'd be no murderers etc.
Yes I have noticed that.... But HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT IT IS YOUR GOD WHO HAS CREATED THOSE SINNERS IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND GAVE THEM THE ABILITY TO COMMIT THOSE UNJUSTIFIABLE CRIMES. I think your GOD was bored to death and then decided to create us and throw in all this negativity solely for self entertainment. He sits there watching the innocent being unjustly killed and the helpless children die from starvation and lack of other decent necessities to survival. He made us in all different shapes and colors. and he has been watching us all along bashing each other to extinction. Now If a starving 5 years old is begging just of a slice of bread and a glass of milk. If your GOD already knows about that kid's situation. then why does he let him die? I may be a sinner to you but I am far better than your GOD when it comes to dealing with situations like these. At least I try to do something about it and I presumably do not have a tiny fraction of the powers that your GOD is supposed to have. We were created for his own entertainment. no more and no less. Solitude can make you think of crazy things to fight boredom and your GOD is no exception. apparently he has done the same things with dinosaurs and other creatures.
NOW think about that a little! and let's debate.
NOTE: I am not atheist ( and I wish I had that belief, at least I would not blame all of this on GOD). and I believe in the same GOD you believe in. but this is a debate. and if we agree on everything it would not be much of a debate.
Originally posted by debbiejo
People don't understand what prayer is really most of the time.........they ask/beg/blame.............prayer to me isn't like that at all...........Prayer is thankfulness and listening.......and then acting upon the knowledge you receive or not....
Then in that case I may be suffering from a "Definition Deficiency Syndrome". 🙁
Originally posted by TheSpinner
Yes I have noticed that.... But HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT IT IS YOUR GOD WHO HAS CREATED THOSE SINNERS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
And those sinners do not have a CHOICE to CHOOSE between good and evil. No where in the bible does god allow man to eat from a tree that gives them choice between good and evil? they have no control of their actions. Or do they? And if God loved them would he not give them a choice? And if he did not give them a choice, would he no be labeled as a hypocrite by those who like to truly controled everyone? Are you one of those "people" or are you something else?
Originally posted by TheSpinner
AND GAVE THEM THE ABILITY TO COMMIT THOSE UNJUSTIFIABLE CRIMES. I think your GOD was bored to death and then decided to create us and throw in all this negativity solely for self entertainment. He sits there watching the innocent being unjustly killed and the helpless children die from starvation and lack of other decent necessities to survival. He made us in all different shapes and colors. and he has been watching us all along bashing each other to extinction. Now If a starving 5 years old is begging just of a slice of bread and a glass of milk. If your GOD already knows about that kid's situation. then why does he let him die? I may be a sinner to you but I am far better than your GOD when it comes to dealing with situations like these. At least I try to do something about it and I presumably do not have a tiny fraction of the powers that your GOD is supposed to have. We were created for his own entertainment. no more and no less. Solitude can make you think of crazy things to fight boredom and your GOD is no exception. apparently he has done the same things with dinosaurs and other creatures.NOW think about that a little! and let's debate.
NOTE: I am not atheist ( and I wish I had that belief, at least I would not blame all of this on GOD). and I believe in the same GOD you believe in. but this is a debate. and if we agree on everything it would not be much of a debate.
😆 You just wish you were God. I think you're just jealous. 💃 💃
Originally posted by Alliance
Yeah...a lot of it happens to be people professing god's name. Its perfectly natural. If you read the bible (which is undeniable fact 🙂) your god did lots of smiting. If your religion is so right...doesn't it have a responsibility for the rest of the world?
Alliance, you seem so angry at us christians and Christ? Why?
Jesus said to His believers, "If the world hates you, you know it hated Me before it hated you. If I were of the world, the world would love it's own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I choose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you."
John 15:18-19
Originally posted by Justbyfaith
Alliance, you seem so angry at us christians and Christ? Why?Jesus said to His believers, "If the world hates you, you know it hated Me before it hated you. If I were of the world, the world would love it's own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I choose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you."
John 15:18-19
Yeah, the Mormons were loved by the world 😉 Extermination orders passed in the United States that made it legal to hunt and kill Mormons in Missouri. Our leaders tarred and feathered by all the "Christians." Our land taken as we were forced from the various states. I think modern day Christians have a ways to go before they can use that verse as a description of themselves.
Originally posted by Regret
Yeah, the Mormons were loved by the world 😉 Extermination orders passed in the United States that made it legal to hunt and kill Mormons in Missouri. Our leaders tarred and feathered by all the "Christians." Our land taken as we were forced from the various states. I think modern day Christians have a ways to go before they can use that verse as a description of themselves.
😆 aman...
Originally posted by Justbyfaith
Alliance, you seem so angry at us christians and Christ? Why?
Here's a short list:
1. The inability of many relgious people, such as yourself, to respond to many logical points with nothing but rhetoric and lack of analysis.
2. The many wrong and terrible things that relgion has done and continues to do to screw up the world
3. The lack of free-thought in indocrinated religion
4. The way relgion, especially yours in particular has systematically executed my people.
5. They way people (similar to you) percieve my people today.
6. The inability for people (such as you) to understand that an attack on you individually, is not a platant attack on your religion.
and this isnt against your religion on your god...its a general feeling in general. I think relgion does many good things, but I also think it does many more bad things. Its an opinon.