Originally posted by Wickerman
Jesus...people keep giving praise to the Phoenix and how incredible and ancient and cosmic and a part of the Universe it is. They also forget Jean Grey ISN'T the entity known as the Phoenix....meh.....whatever. They also seem to forget how Wanda can simply change reality when she blinks.
Scarlet Witch is nothing to Dark Phoenix.
Originally posted by Wickerman
Jesus...people keep giving praise to the Phoenix and how incredible and ancient and cosmic and a part of the Universe it is. They also forget Jean Grey ISN'T the entity known as the Phoenix....meh.....whatever. They also seem to forget how Wanda can simply change reality when she blinks.~wickerman~
What you forget wicker is that when you get to a certain power level lets just say above skyfather level most beings can warp reality on a cosmic scale. Jean as the Phoenix of the White Crown is one with the force and can draw on as much of its power as she requires. This thread is laughable.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
What you forget wicker is that when you get to a certain power level lets just say above skyfather level most beings can warp reality on a cosmic scale. Jean as the Phoenix of the White Crown is one with the force and can draw on as much of its power as she requires. This thread is laughable.
You're probably right. I didn't say Wanda would win this, i was just saying how it pissed me off that people forget how strong she;s become. (And this isn't Phoenix of the White Crown we're talkin bout...or is it? O_o)
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Wickerman
You're probably right. I didn't say Wanda would win this, i was just saying how it pissed me off that people forget how strong she;s become. (And this isn't Phoenix of the White Crown we're talkin bout...or is it? O_o)~wickerman~
No, people didn't forget how strong she is, but compared to DP, they don't care how strong she is, bacause DP is, I mean on completely different level, on such level that it's shame for DP to be compared to SW.
Originally posted by Wickerman
Jesus...people keep giving praise to the Phoenix and how incredible and ancient and cosmic and a part of the Universe it is. They also forget Jean Grey ISN'T the entity known as the Phoenix....meh.....whatever. They also seem to forget how Wanda can simply change reality when she blinks.~wickerman~
I dont know about the original Dark Phoenix saga- after all the retconning and re-retconning- but in Phoenix Endsong, Dark Phoenix is Jean.
Originally posted by FieryBalrog
I dont know about the original Dark Phoenix saga- after all the retconning and re-retconning- but in Phoenix Endsong, Dark Phoenix is Jean.
yes yes, but i meant that they can't make the difference between the cosmic entity that is part of the universe and Jean. (pretty much like saying Hal Jordan or another GL is the GL Energy)
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Wickerman
yes yes, but i meant that they can't make the difference between the cosmic entity that is part of the universe and Jean. (pretty much like saying Hal Jordan or another GL is the GL Energy)~wickerman~
well, its not exactly the same. For one, its an extension of her telekinetic mutation... for two, she has access to as much power as she "needs" for her phoenix work (disinfection, healing), and also she taps into it at will sometimes (particularly when shes angry), like in new x-men when her students are threatened.
also, its hinted at that she's become "one with the force" (X-men: the end states it openly, although it isnt continuity). whatever that means.
Its not exactly clear whether the force uses her or she uses the force- it seems to be both. In Endsong this is supported when phoenix tells jean, "once you called for me in your hour of need... now im calling on you" (paraphrase).
so it seems to me that she uses the force to help her friends, protect her students, resurrect emma etc. and the force uses her to disinfect and heal the universe.
Jean being one with the Phoenix force had her telepathic/telekinetic abilities amplified to a cosmic scale. She could generate virtually any form of energy in virtually unlimited amounts. She could survive in any environment. She was one with a force that drew its power from the life forces of everything in existence.